Kinda quiet in here……
….so I thought I’d call in a have a bit of a ramble. Hopefully
people will start coming back in more now that Thanksgiving
celebrations and family gatherings are drawing to a close. How’s
everyone getting along with their quits? Hope you’re doing ok Lynne,
and have got your mindset fixed and a new date set. Indi gave you
some great advice and tips there, so follow those and you won’t go
far wrong.
I had a lovely day out today, and now getting myself organised for a
busy week ahead at work. Even though it was cold and windy, we had a
great long walk along the beach and it really blew away a few cobwebs
and gave me some much needed thinking time. No Florida sunshine for
me 
Mind you I am seriously thinking about heading for a hot sunny
beach for Christmas - me, my suntan oil, a few good books and a sun
shade. More on that later….
Nothing more to add really - am looking forward to reading more posts
this next week, and the gaffer will be back before too long I’m sure
to keep us all in order take care all
Pam
April 5th, 2003 at 10:04 pm
Well, allow me to liven it up, then:
I don’t know why, but my will power and drive have fallen flat.
I keep promising myself that I’m going to do it and I keep
breaking my word. I quit for one month, blew it, quit for
three weeks, blew it, and now I’ve nearly returned to being
a smoker. I pick myself up and swear to be strong, and find
out that I’m weak. I want to quit so badly, and then find
myself driving to the store for a pack of cigarettes. I crave
cigarettes, only to smoke one and find out how awful they
taste and how sick they make me now. I’m in this weird
twilight and I feel like a complete failure. I know I’m
supposed to pick myself up, not blame myself, and just get
on with it, but right now, I’m really damn discouraged. *sigh*
What the hell is the matter with me? This is absolutely
agonizing. I am simply going to have to commit to the quit
and then avoid cigarettes like the plague. Tonight, before
I go to bed, I’m going to slap a patch on and begin using
them. This is just Hell. I’m going to have to do this and
REALLY do it! I can’t quit and then slip every two days.
That’s not going to get me anywhere but right back into
smoking again. God, I hate this!! S#$T…. I’m crying. I
can’t believe it! I haven’t cried in YEARS!! I feel like
a damn baby….. Tears of anger, of shame, of bitterness,
sorrow at having failed…. tears of frustration and
humiliation…
Sorry for such a downer of a message…
Regards,
-Frank
April 6th, 2003 at 2:31 am
Hi Pam
You’re right it is kinda quiet in here - I’ve not popped in much today cos
been really busy doing stuff that I always considered to be boring -
housework.
Today for some reason I found it to be very therepeutic - strange what
effects quitting has!!!
Anyway in between my tasks for the day (my reward time) I have been reading
some really nice poetry and trying to get my head around this cognitive
thinking. Well a bit more than it is just now.
Do you know I can’t beleive it is so simple - I was cleaning up in my office
(nightmare cos I am really untidy) and I found some of the stuff that I had
printed off, stuff about foundation statements.
I don’t mean that quitting smoking is easy cos honestly for me it wasn’t (I
believe for some people it is), but that having had foundation statements
explained and abc’s I can’t believe how I never thought of it before!!!!!
I really cannot think of any situations where a cigarette would be valid so
shall continue on my journey in life as a non-smoker.
I got an email from my son today to say they landed safe and sound in New
Zealand and he has shown his ‘white legs’ to the sun!!!!
I hope we get some activity going here soon - its about time you guys got
back into reality and stopped all this holiday business. I think its really
unfair that you get to have a major holiday so near xmas - sulk, sulk,
Catch u all later
Namaste
Indi
April 6th, 2003 at 8:40 am
Hi Frank - welcome to the group and to a great place to find out more
about cognitive quitting. A way of quitting comfortably, and finding
out that cigs really won’t have a place in your life any more.
Just to introduce myself, I quit 9 months ago, and have a degree of
quit comfort that I would not have believed possible. What I have
learned has enabled me to tackle whatever life throws at me. In
teaching how to quit, Steve actually gave me the tools to deal with
life in a very different way, how to ABC life’s events so that
smoking was, and continues to be, an option I no longer choose.
First and foremost, have you read Steve’s site from start to finish,
and started to take some of the material on board? Once you find out
more about the reasons you smoke, then you can start to tackle your
smoking behaviour, and put more appropriate non smoking responses in
place. I have absolutely no willpower, by the way. If I had quit
trying to use that I’d have slipped or relapsed a long time ago.
I really want to let you know that this can be done, if you’re
prepared to really think about your smoking habit/behaviour, and try
to deal with it in the ways Steve and others here, including me, will
try to help you with. So, maybe a start is to think about what
situations you smoke in, what feelings you are experiencing before
you light up and what physical sensations you are experiencing eg
shallow breathing caused by tenseness. What else might relieve those
feelings/sensations instead of a cig? Does a cig really help you to
cope better?
Look forward to hearing more from you
Pam
— In CognitiveQuitSmoking@y…, Frank H Weeden <fisacorp@u…
April 6th, 2003 at 5:01 pm
Hi Frank
Good to see you - this group and this way of quitting is a bit different to
other groups - for one thing you actually have to work and think!!!
Steve - who is the boss man (and come to think of it the only man, that I
have met anyway - in the group that is) so good to have another man around-
makes us work really hard.
But for me it has been a lifesaver and I feel as if I will never go back to
being a smoker again - in fact I know I won’t.
More later cos got to go offline now but before I send any more can I suggest
you read some of the past posts.
Catch u later
Namaste
Indi
April 7th, 2003 at 3:04 am
Thanks, Pam. I’ve got to do something different.
Congratulations on being free for 9 months! That’s
I keep doing the same things and expecting different
results. Isn’t that one of the definitions of
insanity?
fantastic! I’d like to eventually be able to say the
same. And I will…
Thanks for the welcome.
-Frank
April 7th, 2003 at 10:19 am
Thanks, Indi. I’ll go back through the archives and
check out Steve’s posts then. Thank you.
-Frank
April 7th, 2003 at 1:40 pm
Frank - that is it exactly
change things, and the results can be
a whole lot different.
Got those lists started yet? Steve’ll be here before you know it,
and will really get you thinking. Welcome to an amazing journey.
Thanks for your congrats too.
BTW - have you read ‘Weighing Widgets’ on the site yet,
or ‘Partners’? Read more about that inner voice, and the dialogues
that go on….. i.e. shall I or shan’t I light up?
— In CognitiveQuitSmoking@y…, Frank H Weeden <fisacorp@u…
April 8th, 2003 at 12:49 am
Thanks, Pam. Yes, I’ve been reading. This last time I quit,
I did just fine, cold turkey, until about the fourth week.
At that point, I started getting hit with MONSTER craves
that seemed to last for hours and then days! I don’t know
why they showed up in the fourth week, but they did. I also
don’t know how to combat them. This last time, I was woefully
unprepared for them. They hit me like a train! I’ve got some
lists started, by the way.
-Frank
April 8th, 2003 at 5:15 am
Hi Frank
Can I ask which side of the pond (as Pam puts it) you are on - the US or the
UK. Some of us do chats either by ICQ if you have it or AOL IM - let us know
if you have and then we can let you have our numbers.
Steve has set up a chat site at spinchat which we sometimes meet in to talk
about where we are, these chats get a little jovial sometimes (cos exercising
the chuckle muscles is a good healthy alternative to smoking) but on the
whole they are really to help us out with our quit.
I’ve personally found them to be really helpful.
I have been quit for about 6 weeks now and although this isn’t the longest
quit I have had its certainly the most peaceful and during these 6 weeks I’ve
not so much as had a puff.
This is very different from my previous quits when I would have the odd puff
and the odd cig and then like you I would be back to smoking big time/full
time.
Getting my head around cognitive thinking hasn’t been easy but I figured out
it was the only thing I’ve never tried and its all about changing my
perception of what will make me feel better when I am feeling uncomfortable
inside, or relaxing or doing anthing cos there wasn’t much I didn’t do
without a cig in my hand.
The thing about cognitive thinking that ‘cracked it’ for me were the
foundation statements that Steve posted, so if you can find this post then
read it - if you have problems let me know and I’ll forward it to you.
Yes I still get uncomfortable, yes I still have urges/thoughts/desires to
smoke but so far I have never come up with a reason where a cigarette would
be the most appropriate response to what is going on in my life.
So just keep on quitting and soon you will be as clever as me
/joke
Namaste
Indi
April 8th, 2003 at 6:40 pm
Me again - we’re the only two around here this evening!
Those ‘craves’ you experienced in the 4th week: you’d quit cold
turkey, right? So they weren’t about nicotine - that would have left
your system within a few days. This is where we start to look at our
smoking behaviour, and how we connected smoking to the events going
on in our lives.
For example, when I used to get really anxious about something, I’d
feel kinda ‘fluttery’ inside my chest - rapid shallow breathing, for
example. A bit like I used to feel when it was time to top up the
nicotine levels. Trouble was, as a smoker, we stopped being able to
distinguish between the two, and the cig became a ‘cure all’. Any
anxious feelings, whatever the cause, could be fixed with a few rapid
drags on a cig. Yes? This is where cognitive thinking starts to kick
in. Thinking about those physical sensations, and deciding what
might help instead of automatically lighting up. Might a few deep
breaths help instead? The action of drawing on a cig mimicked this,
in many ways.
Hope this is making sense to you - but standing back and looking at
those physical sensations and those emotions, and dealing with them
in a different way, is a good start. We all assumed that ‘only’ a
cig could solve whatever it was that was going on.
Think about what happens to you when you feel angry, or tired, or
hungry - when often in the past you would reach for a cig. What might
relieve those sensations?
all the best
Pam
— In CognitiveQuitSmoking@y…, Frank H Weeden <fisacorp@u…
April 9th, 2003 at 3:00 am
Hey Frank
You are being such a good pupil so guess you must be really serious about
this quit - just remember the cravings after 5 days are not your body telling
you that you need a nicotine fix. Its something else.
Up until last week I was having mega cravings, the most horrible feelings
I’ve ever experienced. Now I am a recovering alcoholic and never got
feelings like this when I put the booze down.
So figured out as it wasn’t an actual physical craving for nicotine I was
having it had to be something else and that smoking wouldn’t satisfy that
need so just didn’t smoke. Sometimes I did other things, sometimes it went
with deep breathing or eating or drinking glass of water, but sometimes I
just had to ride it out.
After all I have smoked for 44 years it is not something that is going to go
away overnight.
But you are doing well and knowing that its all in your head and thinking is
a major step on the ladder. So keep it up.
Indi
April 9th, 2003 at 1:03 pm
I can see how they would be helpful. I’ve been using the
Quit Smoking Diaries and I wouldn’t have made for as long as I did
without them, and I wouldn’t have the strength or courage to pick
myself up and get on with it, if it weren’t for them.
I was able to find some of the stuff, but I think I’m missing some of
the essentials, so if you could send the forward to me, I would appreciate
it greatly. Thank you.
hee hee… Thanks, Indi. I don’t know if I posted this already or not,
but I tossed my cigarettes out, just a little while ago, and when I did,
this feeling of relief came over me, along with a feeling of euphoria.
I discovered that I like myself MORE as a nonsmoker, than I do as a smoker.
To me, that feels like a HUGE corner has been turned, and I’m very happy
about that. No matter what happens, smoking is just not an option.
Thanks again, Indi.
-Frank
April 9th, 2003 at 8:18 pm
Thank you very much, Pat. Somewhere along the line, I was making
the decision to leap head over heels into the craving and allowing
myself to be victimized by it, allowing it to spear me right through
the heart, and even fooling myself that I was powerless against it.
And of course, that’s just not true… Now, if I can remember that
when I’m in the middle of jonesin’ for one, and I can exercise some
detachment, I’ll be good to go.
Thanks again.
-Frank
April 10th, 2003 at 12:45 am
Frank I’ll forward the stuff I was talking about tomorrow (cos its late here
now) and I’m in spinchat with Pam and Cat - you have the pleasure of meeting
her yet.
I use the diaries tooo.
Namaste
Indi
April 10th, 2003 at 10:48 am
Thanks, Indi. I haven’t met anyone buy you, Pat,
and a couple of other people from the diary site.
Thanks again. I appreciate the trouble you’re going
through to forward this stuff to me.
Gratefully,
-Frank
April 10th, 2003 at 10:29 pm
sent you some so should keep you busy enough not to smoke tonight
some I think I sent to private email and others think through the group but
never mind they are always worth reading again.
You must get off the cigs otherwise you won’t be staying as dishy looking as
that photo for long- cos smoking ages you and especially good looking young
me -v ery quickly - heeeee heeee
goodnight all - I’m having a major brain fart or senior moment - see you all
tomorrow
Indi
April 11th, 2003 at 5:44 am
Hi All
Please ignore the postings from me which were old posts - I meant to put in
subject line that they were for frank but senior moment again.
sorry
love
Indi
April 11th, 2003 at 3:48 pm
ROFL! Thank you, Indi. I appreciate it very much.
-Frank
I posted my interpretation of what I *think* this
system is all about. If I’ve got it wrong, I’m sure
someone will kindly correct me. I’m using Zyban and
I’ve got a 21 mg patch on my arm. No sense in being
a masochist about it, right?
April 13th, 2003 at 4:41 pm
Hi Frank,
The “pick myself up, not blame myself, and just get on with it” line
sounds like great advice. Personally I think it’s bullshit. The reality is
that a ‘quit’ was lost. The feeling of failure is a fact and is based on
observable events. Shedding it like a dirty T-shirt would be great if it
could be done. Use that feeling of failure. It’s an excellent indicator of
what you really want, and that appears to be ’smoke free’. Have you written
our your foundation statements? They are all that will keep you pointed
toward a goal when “will power and drive have fallen flat”. I have no
will power and don’t expect I ever will. If the decision by decision
process of staying quit was dependent on will power, I’d be smoking today.
Forget ‘will power’. If you can’t come up with some rock bottom personal
truths regarding what you really want as far as smoking is concerned, I’d
say your road ahead is going to be painfully rocky.
My foundation statements:
1- I do not want to be a smoker.
2- That statement is true regardless of how lousy I might feel at any
moment.
3- The only way I’ll remain a not smoker is to accept that there will be
times when I don’t ‘feel’ good and that regardless of what or how I ‘feel’,
a cigarette is an unacceptable choice.
These 3 statements were the basis for me choosing, repeatedly and
regardless of what I felt, to not smoke. 5+ yrs later, I don’t need them
anymore, so if these might work for you, take them, refine them if you
want, and start to build a sustainable quit. Lynne? What are you doing
with your foundation statements? Folks, this all comes down to you
being very honest with you and then living honestly with yourself.
Frank, this sounds like truth. Use it as a foundation statement. Be aware
Steve
that it will remain a personal truth as long as you don’t become self
destructive. As smokers, most of us did deal with life from time to time in
self destructive ways. Ever hear yourself say, “Well screw you! I’m just
going to go have a cigarette.” Self destructive?
heels into the craving.
Yes you were making a decision. But which part of you was deciding? At
the moment you might be thinking it’s the ‘you’ that is ‘conscious’ Frank.
Or the ‘you’ that writes emails? It isn’t. The part of you and of every
other quitter who gets an urge or crave to smoke is a ‘Warren’ (or ‘Hermy’.
please see “Weighing Widgets” if you haven’t already.) Warren’s ‘job’ is to
recognize every physical sensation that you experience (usually before you
are consciously aware you are experiencing it), associate a ‘correct’
response to that sensation, and then ‘tell’ you what response is best. If
Warren has been taught, through repeated successful experience, to
associate a cigarette with what you’re experiencing, than he’ll ‘tell’ you
a cig would be the ‘right’ thing to do and you will ‘want’ to smoke.
There’s nothing complicated about this. It’s normal behavior. Not
necessarily the smoking, but certainly some part of us ‘taking care’ of
routine business. This only happens with routine business. Getting up in
the morning and meals are routine. Stress is routine. Fatigue and anger are
routine. Look at all the cigarettes you smoked and didn’t really think
about why, those were for ‘routine’ reasons. Anything not routine becomes
conscious. It becomes conscious because Warren has no ‘established’
associations for non-routine sensations.
Cognitive quitting is basically recognizing that our smoking followed
established patterns, and understanding what those patterns are. Then we
set up ‘plans’, ABCs, for dealing with expected ‘routine’ events.
Following those plans means we are re-educating Warren to make new
associations. (He has no vested interest in what associations he makes as
long as they are ‘effective’. What is ‘effective’ can be very different
depending on our criteria. The bottom line is that it must all become as
conscious as we can make it.
Cognitive quitting accepts that smoking is ALWAYS an option. Staying quit
means dealing with life using responses that address issues in a manner
concurrent with our foundation statements. Initially, as we work out plans
for routine events, ‘a cigarette’ is usually the first in our list of
options for dealing with any particular event. Maybe change that line to
“No matter what happens, smoking is just not an acceptable or appropriate
option.”
No. What ‘that’ part of us is really saying is “Light up”. The problem
is that it’s associating a ‘light up’ solution to everything. The reason
why is pretty simple….. it’s because a couple of deep pulls off a cig
created an immediate change. Often the change addressed the event i.e.
sedate us when stressed or stimulate us when brain fogged or bored. Most of
the time all we really wanted was a change from the previous moment’s
sensations. A cig did that every single time. No wonder it became our
universal response. The goal now is to begin to get ‘Warren’ to
differentiate between sensations and suggest appropriate responses. That
only happens with awareness.
Frank, you are very correct about it not being a monster or an enemy. An
integral part of ourselves was trained to associate specific sensations
(almost everything we feel) with a cigarette solution. ‘All’ we have to do
is retrain it. That education is not so difficult. We only smoked one cig
at a time, mostly. We only have to address one situation at a time.
As you shift your perspective from seeing monsters out there and you as a
victim to one of a natural non-threatening pattern that simply needs
adjusting, most of the ‘power’ of urges will dissipate. Take them out of
the unknown, and they’re suddenly very manageable far more easily rerouted.
Glad to have you with us Frank, this place sure needs more estrogen
ps- those past quits of a month or so, forget them. they don’t count.
they were done all wrong. hows that for an absolute statement? quitting
isn’t about time quit or time not smoking. it’s about how and what we think.
www.cognitivequitting.com
April 13th, 2003 at 11:56 pm
comfortable. (at least not at first.)
www.cognitivequitting.com
April 14th, 2003 at 9:02 am
Well, then I’ve got the wrong equipment. I primarily have
Thanks, Steve. Lots to ponder in this post. I snipped most of
testosterone. Look at my photos if you don’t believe me.
it for brevity’s sake.
-Frank
April 14th, 2003 at 2:25 pm
First it has to make sense on the conscious level or there would be not
reason for us to proceed. As for the ‘voice’, it will always be there.
Simply being aware of a more ‘logical’ set off ‘workings’ will help some,
but it will not change the voice’s dialog. That can only be changed by
presenting the voice with different dialogs. That’s where the ABCs come
into play. The ABCs are a 3 step illustration of how the voice functions.
For instance: A- I’m angry and want to calm down. B- a cig always helped me
calm down in the past. It’ll help me now. C-I want to smoke. That
dialog/pattern will repeat itself endlessly regardless of how our
‘conscious’ perception may have changed. That’s why you’re getting
lingering urges. The B and C are both valid statements. A cig DID always
help and that’s why we experience the urge for that particular relief. If I
want to change my voice’s dialog around anger, I must prepare alternate
dialogs and’plant’ them where they can be used in a real life situation
(that’s where and how we begin to reprogram the voice). Lets say I know
that tomorrow a particular client will be in my office. This client is too
stupid to live, yet, against all laws of nature, will be in my office
making requests that will infuriate me with their shear gall and stupidity.
A- stupid client is mouthing insanity and I’m not allowed to just toss him
through the window. I’m angry, frustrated and desperately need to calm down.
B- in the past a cig would have ‘calmed’ me within seconds. I know I don’t
want to smoke so I must find a different response. This moron and my anger
might benefit if I excuse myself for a ‘moment’ and go get a cup of coffee
(for me) or take a slow walk around the building. Some deep breathing and a
bit of thinking about how lucky that client is that I’ve never pinched off
his head might amuse me and even offer a moment of quiet to think about how
to deal with his requests.
C- based on my dialog in B, my choice will be something other than a cig.
I’ll probably not even want a cig as I’ve offered myself options that
address the situation and my needs from my not smoking perspective.
Kelley, what happens when we’ve prepared a plan for an expected situation
is that as soon as the situation occurs, we become conscious of the voice
and it’s ‘job’ of presenting us with options. When we catch the voice at
the moment it is activated, it doesn’t get a chance to ‘decide’ that a cig
is THE way to deal. This is how we begin reprogramming our inner voice.
This is a process of repetition. We learned to smoke in response to life’s
‘clients’ by repeating what worked till we no longer needed to be involved
consciously. Start planning and practicing with expected events and you’ll
start to establish new patterns.
Give me a couple of your upcoming or routine events that are always
connected to urges, and we can try to come up with a few ABCs. Then you can
try them out.
Steve
www.cognitivequitting.com
April 14th, 2003 at 9:40 pm
oops yeah that’s what I meant
www.cognitivequitting.com
April 15th, 2003 at 4:05 am
Frank,
I want to step in here for just a moment and welcome you as well. I
don’t post a whole lot but I do read and appreciate all of the dialog
that is taking place. Every now and then you’ll hear from me but for
the most part, I’m quiet.
I am 3 1/2 years quit (today!!!). Steve was my quit coach way back
when. This method of quitting has made all the difference in the world
to me. It made so much more sense than trying to hold on for all I was
worth…. once again. I always failed that way. So when I quit this
time, I was hungry for a new way to approach quitting. And this was the
way I learned. I wanted you to hear about a success that is long term.
When I say I don’t think about cigs anymore…. I truly don’t think
about cigs any more. And this from a 2 pack a day smoker as well.
Smile.
Welcome aboard.
Pat
www.talkingstick.net
April 16th, 2003 at 8:58 am
Hi Steve
Hope you had a good time and not so many corny cracks about oestregen!!!!!
Welcome Back - think we missed you (well I know I did) cos you put things so
much better than I do.
Namaste
Indi
April 16th, 2003 at 4:13 pm
In a message dated 26/11/01 04:53:43 GMT Standard Time, fisacorp@…
writes:
Well looks like I’m another who can’t tell the difference!!!!!!!
Indi
April 17th, 2003 at 6:42 am
Hi Pat
Glad that Frank has joined cos whenever we get a new member you always post
and your posts always make me feel good - nice to hear from you again.
Frank - you certainly have livened things up like you said in your first post
- or is it coincidental with the return of our friends who were off
celebrating Thanksgiving?
Anyway whatever the reason its nice to see some activity.
Hey Pam, maybe you had the last word yesterday (and I enjoyed the chat too)
but bet I’m first one to post today.
So its Monday and the start of a brand new week, its also the last few days
of my 55th year on this earth (44 of which were as a smoker). So guess I am
going into the 3rd phase of my life as a non smoker and I’m really pleased
about that. Not to be going into the 3rd phase but to be a non smoker
Although I ’sort of’ always wanted to quit there was always a part of me that
was never willing to put too much effort in, I always wanted a magic cure,
something that would let me wake up in the morning and be a non smoker.
I’m not even sure that I ever really wanted to quit for the right reasons,
reasons which were down to me choosing to for benefits that were real to me,
not some perceived benefits of others.
This time I know it is different, this time I know there is no magic cure,
this time I know - like you say Steve it is simple, not easy, but simple and
this time I know I can do it.
This time I know I do not want to be a smoker and that if I choose to smoke
again I am actually choosing to be what I do not want to be so I will keep
learning, practising and putting my abc’s into use and make sure that I make
the most appropriate choice/response to whatever is going on in my life
moment by moment.
Until these choices become part of my automatic response then I will have to
keep it moment by moment and with experience the automatic bit will come.
Have a good day all of you.
Namaste
Indi
April 20th, 2003 at 2:45 am
Wonderful. That’s where I want to be!
Thanks, Pat.
-Frank
April 27th, 2003 at 11:13 pm
Steve, as I read over yesterday’s Email again,
the above statement really reached out and grabbed me
(and no, I wasn’t bullshitting you when I said that
I would read it over again and ponder it further)
because I misread it at first, to read, “The bottom
line is that we must all become as conscious as we
can.” To me, that seems like one of those universal
truths that extends to every facet of life; (waxing
philosophical here… sorry) but one of my personal
goals is expanded awareness and a greater level of
consciousness. In fact, the thing that appalled me
most about smoking was the fact that it was indeed,
so automatic. As mindless, brainless, and dull as
cattle slopping their way around the pasture, looking
for a patch of sweet clover or a nice tree to stand
under. As long as I am enslaved by this addiction, then
I am also spiritually enslaved, and the addiction itself
is a contradiction to everything that I am striving for
in all other areas of my life. While other peoples’ primary
motivation might be their health, my primary motivation
is to be free from addiction to physical substances.
And of course, I have other motives and they fall to
their own level of priority…
Anyway, the more I read, the more sense a lot of this
makes. Today is my first day on Wellbutrin AND the
patch, and it has been SUCH a relief! My faith in myself
is restored. I’m beginning to believe that I can and will
get through this, and that I will attain my goal.
-Frank