Re:

Thanks Marde,
I’m excited and panicky at the same time. Have been printing out all kinds
of stuff from the group and reading everything a couple of times. It all
makes such good sense! I do feel more prepared than I ever have to quit for
good.
My boyfriend just called to say his transmission froze as he was driving
down the interstate and he had to be towed to a garage and this will take
all the money he had saved for getting his teeth fixed.
Such bad news…………….I immediately reached for a cigarette but found
myself actually noticing what I was doing. I was able to postpone the ‘fix’
for a few minutes. Am going to spend the next few days writing out some
ABC’s and practicing this awareness.
Sheri
- I was put on earth to accomplish certain things. Right now I am so far
behind I will never die.

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45 Responses to “Re:”

  1. Lester Sierra Says:

    It may sound reasonable - but it would not be something I could ever do
    as long as I was riding with a group of friends who knew me just 4 weeks
    ago when I was smoking as much or more than they were……….. :) I think I would even have difficulty asking these same friends that they
    not smoke in “my” car………….knowing how often I had smoked in
    theirs!!!!
    I think this will sort itself out in time…..
    We have always sort of had an unwritten agreement among people I might
    “travel” with…..smokers would not light up in a non-smoker’s car - but
    non-smokers riding with a smoker had to take their chances (even though
    we would try to modify our behaviour)….. the problem being that quite
    often we were travelling from Point A (where there was no smoking) to
    Point B (where again there was no smoking) - so the car (during a
    Canadian winter) - was a smoker’s sanctuary! :) I suspect I will gradually become less tolerant if I am able to hold to

    this quit -
    but I hope I never quite forget just how difficult it can be ………..
    Jean

  2. Neva Marjory Says:

    Just throwing in my few pence here (I’m British).
    As a smoker I never lit up in anyone’s home or car, whether they
    were smokers, non-smokers or ex-smokers, unless ‘invited’. Even then
    I’d be more likely to go outside or wait for a ‘pit stop’ to have a
    smoke.
    As an exsmoker I expect the same consideration: I’m not ‘holier
    than thou’ since I quit 11 months ago - I just plain dislike the
    smell of smoke, and the effect it has on my breathing. I do find
    though that my friends who smoke never even raise the subject of
    lighting up in my home or car. Work for me is non smoking
    environment so it doesn’t arise.
    Pam
    — In CognitiveQuitSmoking@y…, Jean <jbrinklw@t…

  3. Raleigh Missy Says:

    I don’t think you will become intolerant. Cognitive quitters tend to be
    very understanding of those still addicted. We know the smoking habit in a
    very in depth way.
    www.cognitivequitting.com

  4. hassan_11 Says:

    In a message dated 02/02/02 05:03:07 GMT Standard Time,
    jbrinklw@… writes:
    Excellent, brilliant - well done - it really does get easier so stick with
    it:)))))
    Indi

  5. Lester Sierra Says:

    non-smoking - yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    give yourselves as much slack as you can…………..
    Jean

  6. hassan_11 Says:

    In a message dated 06/02/02 01:46:55 GMT Standard Time, todora@…
    writes:
    Gail I’m sure you will cos you’ve got cog quit - not so sure about DH though:)
    Indi

  7. Neva Marjory Says:

    Thanks Gail - glad the chat helped :) Have a great trip,
    Pam
    — In CognitiveQuitSmoking@y…, “todora” <todora@p…
    Pam reminded me to write some ‘what if’ lists. I’ll need them
    while driving in the car with DH and the kids FOR 22 HOURS. What am
    I nuts? I’ll be ready for whatever hits me…. and I’ll hit back!

  8. hassan_11 Says:

    Hi All and especially Gail (if I haven’t missed you already) just thought I
    would share this with you all. I’ve been having a tough couple of days and
    can only think its got something to do with me being in the last week of my 3
    months quit.
    For some reason the 3’s have been really difficult for me, 3 days was awful,
    3 weeks was awful and now week 3 of month 3 is awful but it will soon be over
    and then the next 3 will be 3 years so guess I can cope with that.
    The one thing I am really grateful for in all of this is that I had cog quit
    cos without I know I would have weakened yesterday.
    I had a real hard day - got through it - wrote a really long post about it
    and lost the post so went on my massage bed and then went to bed. Today
    hasn’t been much better but I’ve got through it.
    Gail hope you have a wonderful holiday you really deserve it and maybe this
    might help - if you get time to print it off.
    All habits begin with thoughts, which become beliefs, which

    become action. Develop a new non-smoker habit.
    As a smoker, you believe you are a smoker. As a non-smoker, you
    believe you are a non-smoker. One person can have both beliefs,
    but not at the same time. Which belief is true? The belief that
    is followed by action is always true.
    THE PARADOX
    You don’t want cigarettes. In fact, you hate cigarettes, but you
    pursue them anyway.
    The paradox is that you can never get enough of what you don’t
    want.
    To change your habit, cease to pursue the things you DON’T want,
    and instead pursue the things you DO want. Magic materializes
    when you do this.
    Begin to pursue being a non-smoker. Consider the options or
    alternatives to smoking. Don’t try to “break” your habit, just
    look for alternatives. Pursue those things, and your beliefs
    about smoking will change.
    If you are driving in the fast lane on a highway, and you come
    upon someone who is driving slower, but refuses to pull over so
    you can pass, you have three alternatives:
    1. Get as close as you can to their bumper, and get angry.
    2. Smash into their car and risk killing yourself and others.
    3. Simply change lanes and move on.
    Your smoking habit is the slow car in front of you, and you have
    a choice to make.
    REMEMBERING YOUR MAGIC
    Quitting smoking is actually a simple process. You already have
    the ability to quit and be a non-smoker. You simply have
    forgotten how to be a non-smoker. For the first several years of
    your life you were a non-smoker. You had the magic the moment
    you were born!
    CONCLUSION
    Change your beliefs by taking action to quit. Replace your
    current actions and beliefs with new actions and belief. Forget
    about your habit. Forget the belief that you are a smoker.
    Forget the belief that you can’t be a non-smoker. And know that
    you deserve to be a non-smoker.
    Soon you will once again perform the magic you knew as a child.
    Indi

  9. Neva Marjory Says:

    Indi, that was so great. I’m printing it now to keep with my
    foundation statement. I’ve had an awful few days too (3 weeks
    tonight). Thanks for the little bit of magic. I sure needed it.

  10. hassan_11 Says:

    Got to tell you all just booked our holiday - off to Fuerteventura on 16th so
    just over a week to go better get ready with my abc’s cos like you Gail this
    will be my first ‘vacation’ as a non-smoker.
    Its pretty hard to imagine me lying on a beach reading my book without a
    ‘cig’ but its also hard to imagine me smoking (although could murder one just
    before I got on here - its that big hole thing inside again.
    Cat and I discussed this a while back I have this horrible ‘feeling’ going
    from my lungs up to my throat, Cat had similar feeling going from stomach up
    to lungs’.
    I eventually went to get checked out at doctors ‘just in case’ as I have
    never known a feeling like it and I don’t feel comfortable with it.
    Doctor said it could well be the cilia growing back doing their job and the
    ‘feeling’ I get is them actually working. But because my body has not known
    this feeling before it thinks its a bit like ‘fear’ and brings on the urge of
    wanting to smoke - he told me it could last up to 6 months.

    Now this feeling hasn’t been around for past couple of weeks but yesterday it
    started up again and today it has been particularly bad especially this
    evening.
    So now I have booked our holiday and have sooooo much to do before I go - but
    then do I really? I don’t need to leave my house all clean and tidy before I
    go away - no one is going to see it (if anyone breaks in while I am away they
    aren’t going to worry if I haven’t vac’d the carpet are they????
    So all I have to do really is arrange for someone to look after my little
    dog, make sure there are no outstanding bills to be paid. Make sure my work
    is up to date and then forget ‘what if’s’ while I am away. (Let the boss see
    what I had to do while he was away for 3 weeks after all it is his company
    not mine:)
    Make sure I have plenty of reading material and do what you are doing Gail
    and get myself a cog quit file to replace the computer.
    Now I have finished rambling the ‘feeling’ has almost gone so I can go have
    my night time tea and get off to bed. When I come back from hols I’m gonna
    get this ISP sorted out once and for all!!!!
    Catch you all later
    Indi

  11. hassan_11 Says:

    In a message dated 07/02/02 19:22:47 GMT Standard Time, katie@… writes:
    Thanks for your post Katie Lou - think what its all about for me is letting
    myself do all the things I know I shouldn’t do - get hungry, tired, angry and
    for me thirsty.
    Had a day yesterday where my boss who is a real ~~+==****~~~~~~### - think
    of the worst name you can imagine, got me so wound up. Now I don’t get angry
    but I do get resentful and it just simmers away and eventually it doesn’t
    take much for me to burst into tears.
    So that was one issue - resentment is a form of anger right!!!
    My son had rang me from NZ and didn’t sound his usual happy self - think he
    is having a ‘crisis’. There is absolutely nothing I can do about it but all
    you mom’s (and Dad’s maybe) out there will know how I feel when I can’t ‘fix
    things and make it all better for my ‘baby’ (who just happens to be 30 and a
    dad himself:)
    So cos I can’t fix things for him I guess there is an issue relating to

    ‘guilt’
    I’d done what I’m really good at got into a too busy to eat mode apart from
    chocolate bar - so got the ‘high from sugar and then the low - so next issue
    is hunger and tiredness.
    Sometimes when I get into this sort of mode and the ‘bad stuff like urges’
    starts then I just keep it in my head and it gets worse, then I get into
    thinking that - this is the way its meant to be - its meant to be hard to
    quit!!!!
    Well I guess like a lot of you I know all the things I should do - but there
    is a big difference between ‘knowing what to do’ and doing it - sometimes I
    just get into the sort of mode where I feel as if I am paddling my canoe
    upstream with the paddle turned the wrong way.
    But then I am only human and don’t always do the things that I know I should
    do - but then I guess I have to suffer the consequences. But I know that
    without cog quit I wouldn’t even have been able to think it out.
    So today I was determined to do things right - so I wouldn’t have to go
    through the ‘urge thing’ again. I got it half right until this evening -
    already posted about how I feel this evening and got no idea what is
    happening but then that isn’t important - its how I deal with it thats
    important.
    Well done on your first month Katie Lou - just keep following the leader cos
    thats what I’m doing and believe me it works.
    Indi

  12. Raleigh Missy Says:

    Just one statement? I hadn’t thought of only one. I’m curious, what
    is it?
    Steve
    www.cognitivequitting.com

  13. Raleigh Missy Says:

    Bravo Indi. That’s it exactly. That is why you will not smoke again,
    even if there are situations that are intensely ‘urgish’. You’ve learned
    how to deal with the response part of your behavior, whether or not it’s
    understood. In the end, that’s all we have to do, deal with what happens as
    it happens.
    In a related way, Indi, I’d guess that you don’t really need to bring
    any binders with you. What you need, as far as your quit is concerned, you
    already carry with you. It’s all in your thoughs. I wouldn’t be surprised
    if Gail returns to report she barely, if at all, needed her binder.
    We’ll see.
    Steve
    www.cognitivequitting.com

  14. Raleigh Missy Says:

    Congratulations Katie Lou. In your first month, you’ve come farther
    down the cog quit road than you realize. :) it is very much a matter of
    time and patience, that later of which no one has in abundance.
    About this…
    When I quit I felt as you do. I didn’t at first understand why the quit
    was so different and I fully expected the “other shoe to drop”. But there
    is no “other shoe”. I know it feels like there is, however that feeling is
    based on our past experience. This quit is nothing like past quits so our
    experience is going to be very different. The reason your quit has been as
    it’s been is because of what and how you’ve been thinking. Continue to
    think as you have so far and there will be no “other shoe”. Sometimes we
    might wonder, “What if I stop thinking like this” or “What if I forget to
    think?”. We can become so overloaded with life that we forget to use our
    tools. We can get so worn down that it seems we’re about to melt,
    painfully. But between the melting and the lighting of a cig is a very big

    chasm.Believe me, before you light up you’ll have chosen to think
    cognitively about everything that’s been flung off the fan. And in the
    thinking, you’ll return to your ‘in enough control’ place. Give it time,
    you’ll see that you can always trust the tools you’ve already learned.
    Was that rediculously vague? Think I came home with a chest cold, and
    it may be adding a ’spacey’ effect to my brain. If I get entirely astral, I
    hope someone will point me toward a seat in the quiet corner.
    Steve
    www.cognitivequitting.com

  15. hassan_11 Says:

    In a message dated 08/02/02 05:32:43 GMT Standard Time,
    ddsteve@… writes:
    Sorry to hear this but am sure it won’t affect your brain:) Thanks for your
    note, nice to have you back, you were missed, hope you had a good time and
    your mum enjoyed her birthday.
    Sending Reiki your way to help with the chest cold - catch up over weekend
    hopefully.
    Namaste
    Indi

  16. Neva Marjory Says:

    Hi Linda
    I hope the last few awful days have passed by now. This really does
    go with the territory in the early weeks of the quit when we’re
    dealing with detox and general ‘quit crazies’ (love that phrase).
    The great thing is that it does pass. I mentionned to KatieLou in
    another post that I had signs up all round the house, warning
    everyone that ‘I am in recovery. I am out of sorts and will not be
    myself for some time’. We forget that, in quitting, we’re going
    through a life changing experience, dealing with a lot all at once
    both physically and mentally.
    One day this week I interviewed 3 people, one after the other, all
    of whom were ‘vaccinated off a parrot’ (a quaint Brit expression I
    think). They never paused for breath, telling me their life
    histories and various woes. I couldn’t get a word in, it became
    very tedious and boring and, after about 2 hours I thought ‘I could

    use ….something…to get me through this’. Not a ciggy thought as
    such, but ’something’ would’ve helped. The cogquit tools kicked in
    straightaway, and my answer was to excuse myself to go and get a
    file (having got a word in !), go out of the room, walk round, have
    a glass of water…..and then go back to the interview (or
    monologue, as it was :) ). I didn’t need that ’something’ any
    more - or maybe that something was simply just a change of scene for
    a few minutes.
    Hope to catch up with you on ICQ soon.
    bye for now
    Pam

  17. Lester Sierra Says:

    Went to the movies today…………
    There was a line in “The Beautiful Mind” ………….
    I will paraphrase (and possibly badly) but it went something like
    this………
    “I was thinking - about our hopes and desires, our dreams - and perhaps
    our nightmares. Perhaps they all need feeding to keep them alive.”
    It sounded like an echo!!!!!!!!! :))
    Jean

  18. Raleigh Missy Says:

    Loved the movie. Wonderful line.
    www.cognitivequitting.com

  19. Lester Sierra Says:

    Lots of “newbies” on the list since I last wrote………
    (keep trying to think of words of wisdom but they do not come) :) This list works though….. :) Reached an 8 month quit mark last night………..
    (after 49 years of heavy smoking)
    Best Wishes everyone……….
    Jean

  20. Raleigh Missy Says:

    Jean and Gail
    Congratulations ladies :) Well done
    Steve

  21. Lester Sierra Says:

    Thanks to all for kudos………… :) (and to the group for being here)
    Jean

  22. Lester Sierra Says:

    Lots of stubborness, Cat…. :) But I need to be honest, too….
    I put on quite a few pounds during the weeks I tried to learn to
    reinterpret that inner voice I used to think demanded
    nicotine……..:) When my ABC’s failed - a hard candy came to the
    rescue!! :) So now I am trying to adapt the cog quit method to weight loss…… :) (hope my experience can serve as a warning to someone!!!) :))
    Jean

  23. Raleigh Missy Says:

    We need to get Boobie involved in this. Chatting with her the other night
    she mentioned that she’d used some foundation statements and ABC’s to help
    her drop 25lbs so far. There might be something worth discussing.
    Steve

  24. Lester Sierra Says:

    Input welcome, Steve… :) I seem to be having the same difficulty creating ABC’s for food as I
    originally did for smokes!!!!
    What I think has happened is that I taught Warren that Werthers (and/or
    a lot of other things) were a darned good substitute
    …….!!!!!……….
    At first I kept telling myself - well - it is better than smoking - but
    it got out of hand before I realized it!!!!
    I managed to gather up 40 lbs which need to be lost!!!!!!!
    Jean

  25. Raleigh Missy Says:

    Jean, I’ve got no input on this. I’m not the one who’s used cog thinking
    to advantage in weight control. Bobbie used this. She’s the one who can
    offer up what worked for her and how it worked. Gail? You’ve used cog
    thinking to effect a change in eating patterns? Come on … spit it out.
    Oh! Would that be a weight control method? Spitting it out? ;)

  26. Lester Sierra Says:

    Have to feel that whatever worked for cigs, must be applicable in other
    ways……
    I shall work on it……… :)))
    But I am surely open to input from anyone on the list.. :) (my wardrobe shrinks daily!!)
    Jean

  27. Raleigh Missy Says:

    At 07:38 AM 9/3/2002 -0500, Gail wrote:
    “I am sure once I get the strength and stamina to get serious about using
    exercise, eating right, keeping busy (i.e. being a perfect human being) for
    my C’s in that project that the ABC’s will work tremendously.”
    I think Gail’s stated a universal posture. I know this sounds just like
    me. It’s something that’ll happen when ….. I get *it* together. This
    sounds a lot like where I was with quitting for a lot of yrs, “I’d be able
    to quit if I can get a handle on my triggers …. when I can deal with my
    emotions …. if I can only…. .”
    Getting a handle on emotions or feelings in order to not ‘want’ to smoke
    wasn’t going to happen. Some how (foundation statements and ABCs) we
    removed the emotional/feeling criteria from our individual decisions re:
    whether on not to smoke in this or that situation. We made it as mechanical
    and dispassionate as possible. In a similar vein, what would we have to
    remove, what shift in focus would we require, other than becoming ‘perfect

    human beings :), what criteria would we need to employ in order to make
    dispassionate choices about what I eat?
    As I was writing this, Anita came on ICQ and in talking, I asked how she
    was doing. She replied “doing ok this past day or two, been sort of high
    one day, low the next, more kind of even the last couple. some cravings
    but I’ve understood what they were about, and soon as I did they went
    away.” That’s the cog quit, knowing what’s going on in the moment and the
    consequent redirection of behavior. Could a similar “understanding what
    they are” about be applied to urges to eat, or to choices of what to eat?
    I’m just asking questions. Actually, I really just trying to find the
    questions to ask.
    Steve

  28. Neva Marjory Says:

    to eat?
    A lot of the cigs I smoked were about wanting to take a break from
    whatever chore I was doing, to put off doing something, to escape
    from some scenario, to relax, calm down……. I used them in many
    ways as an escape. I think overeating, or eating the wrong food
    (comfort calorie laden food) is used in much the same way. Maybe
    again we need to look at the physical symtons these ‘feelings’
    generate and use whats appropriate in that moment. But I’m sure
    there’s more to it than that….. I’ve thought and I’m still
    thinking about this one (you do ask some questions over the morning
    tea - well, it was breakfast time here anyway..)
    Anita

  29. Lester Sierra Says:

    I have come to believe that dieting (for me) will be VERY much the same
    as learning not to smoke……………
    (or perhaps just an extension of this learning)
    I suspect that what I have really learned up to now is to substitute!!!
    And Warren has learned a new game………….
    Jean

  30. jeffry_10 Says:

    ok steve now you have blown your image of perfection when you misspelled my
    name.
    That’s Bobbie to you, only those who really know me call me Boobie (or is
    that a boob?) :-) And I’ve officially lost 27 1/2 pounds as of Tues nite. My quit date was
    March 17th 2002
    Yes I’m laughing….Bobbie

  31. Raleigh Missy Says:

    I know I sent this one, spelled correctly, earlier. Both copies may show
    up. to be sure…..

    Wow!! Well done Bobbie

  32. Raleigh Missy Says:

    Wow!! Well done Bobbie

  33. jeffry_10 Says:

    The tool to lose weight I chose was weight watchers. What got me started and
    kept me going was:
    1. I started off with a foundation statement. While my foundation statement
    for weight loss was worded differently than smoking, bottom line is I
    believed I needed to change the way I was living my life.
    2. Like with smoking I made a list of why I wanted to lose weight. Again
    though the words were different the result was I was listing the ways my old
    habits and lifestyle was limiting my enjoyment of day to day life.
    3. I did more what if’s the first month than any ABC’s. What if a fellow
    office worker offered me a donut/smoke?
    What if I had to eat out at a restaurant/smoking section
    I’m not sure if I’m being clear, but this is not an advertisement on weight
    loss, this is a testimony on how proactive thinking and planning will help
    you quit smoking and lose weight.
    PS I did not try to dive into this weight loss program the first few months

    of my quit. I gave myself a time goal to not worry about the weight issue,
    but set up a three month limit to get busy and do something about the extra
    pounds.

  34. Raleigh Missy Says:

    Wow!! Well done Bobbie

  35. carmelita_1300 Says:

    Almost six months into this quit, I find myself confused about whether we
    were supposed to rewrite (or personalize) the Foundation Statements. I
    memorized and “adopted” them as they are written—and many times they prove
    to be the backbone of my commitment to stay quit (I guess I just answered my
    own question–yes, I’m a blonde)…Take care, PegS

  36. Dominique Shellie Says:

    hey, me too!
    peg.

  37. carmelita_1300 Says:

    In a message dated 5/5/2003 9:22:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
    ddsteve@… writes:

  38. Grant George Says:

    funny Steve - you must be reading my mind!!! I’ve been thinking about an that
    very thing. In fact I’ve been making notes on what is going on with me after a
    meal when I want a cigarette the most. I haven’t yet come up with any good
    replacements for an ABC - getting up and doing dishes after a meal just isn’t
    the same. I’ve been working on this one. The only thing that comes close is
    sugar which for my weight isn’t an option but all I’ve come up with so far. Yes
    - why is it that the desire for a “pleasure” cigarette is the most difficult to
    overcome. There is one ABC on the lists in the files but it’s the get up and do
    something kind and doesnt’ address the pleasure sensation. That’s about the
    only thing I miss about smoking is that cigarette after a meal. do you still
    have an urge for a cigarette after a meal after being quit for so long?
    On another note, I did have sort of another epiphany this past weekend. I had 3
    house guests - all of whom smoked. They know I am quitting so they didn’t smoke
    around me. I went outside though once while 2 of them were smoking and walked
    by. I thought I would want a cigarette immediately when I smelled them for the

    first time since quitting, but I didn’t. It turned me off completely. They
    smelled foul and I didn’t want one for sure. It surprised me that I felt that
    way. I even drank a little beer on the 4th and didnt’ even want one. Other
    than the stress of having extra people around, the weekend went very well.
    I’m interested in anyone else’s thoughts on the after meal/pleasure ciggy. We
    will definitely have this whole quitting business licked if we can come up with
    the answer to that one.

  39. Raleigh Missy Says:

    Nope, never. In fact, I never really had urges to smoke from day 1 of
    my quit. That’s not to say I wasn’t intensely aware that something was
    ‘missing’ after a meal. But I was spending so much time asking myself what
    did I really want that ‘urges for cigs’ never materialized. The only thing
    I may want at teh end of a meal these days is…. more. But I’m working
    on getting up from the table before I can only roll away.
    As for the pleasure smokes….. the following are a couple of thoughts from
    a chat earlier today with Di:
    <ddsteve
    pleasurable ‘ahh’ feeling. If Warren knows that a smoke = ‘ahh’ and we’re
    wanting to or expecting to feel the ‘ahh’, wouldn’t it be logical that he’d
    tell us to light up?
    <ddsteve
    smoke seems the desired action.
    <Di

    pleasurable thing should be enough in itself.
    <ddsteve
    good feelings are already present, maybe we need to let go of the belief
    that a smoke = ‘ahh’ and just feel the ‘ahh’ that already exists.
    I’m still chewing this one over. Any other ideas out there?
    Steve

  40. Neva Marjory Says:

    activity the good feelings are already present, maybe we need to let
    go of the belief that a smoke = ‘ahh’ and just feel the ‘ahh’ that
    already exists.
    Hi Gang - I’m still here - lurking away. This discussion really
    tweaked my interest for a couple of reasons:
    The times that I thought would be the worst was after dinner and in
    my car. When I quit, I can honestly say that both of these
    situations were just like a pesky fly - you kinda swat it away and
    its gone. They never bothered me - even in the heavy throws of days
    1-3. I wonder if its because I “expected” them to be bad and
    therefore dealt with them beforehand on a subconcious level? Oh -
    and for the first few weeks I stayed away from alcohol entirely.
    After tentatively having a couple of glasses of wine one night I
    realized that it doesn’t trigger any desire to smoke.
    Having said that - what I didn’t expect was the “reward cig” It

    seems like I’ll go along for about a week or so doing very very well
    and then I wake up one morning and I’m right back to square one. I
    finish an activity and I want a smoke. I start an activity and I
    want a smoke. I do something good and I want a smoke. I try the
    HALT stuff. No dice. I’m not hungry, thirsty, etc. I try telling
    Warren that after 4 months he’s gotta know that it ain’t on, but he
    still offers up smoking regularly. Then, for no apparent reason, the
    cravings stop again.
    Ideas? Anyone?
    Oh - I might add that in 5 days my daughter is getting married at my
    house - which means 100 guests, catering, landscaping, etc, etc.
    But, while this triggers anxiety cravings, Warren and I have managed
    them quite nicely.
    Long post, I know sorry - but when you lurk for a while, seems like
    there’s an awful lot that needs to come out all at once :-) Any help would be great.
    Marlene

  41. Raleigh Missy Says:

    Hi Marlene,
    I was thinking about you post and your statement…
    Here’s a thought…
    you sail along pretty much on autopilot having partially retrained Warren
    to deal appropriately most of the time. But once in a while, depending on
    some very subtle level of sensation, he offers up old options. It’s at that
    point that you, once again, get involved. But because Warren is already
    into his ‘old ways’, it takes a bit of work on your part to turn him once
    more to the newer choices. This ties into being a bit more proactive in
    preparing either ABCs or doing some ‘what if’ thinking. My guess is that if
    you make a point of ‘touching base’ with Warren more often to make sure
    he’s on the same page, you’ll side step the smoking thoughts.
    Steve

  42. Neva Marjory Says:

    Hi Steve - You’re right about the logistics part of it. (very
    right). To be honest, I haven’t done a lot of ABC’s in the last
    little bit, but I recognized that the worry over having a houseful
    (for 3 days, many of whom are smokers) and the actual wedding day was
    something I needed to be prepared for. I’ve written out my ABC’s and
    tucked them away. I’ll pull them out the day before, during, and
    after for review as needed.
    As for the reward ABC - I’ll mull that over tonight and see what I
    can come up with. Your choice of words intrigues me. Perhaps I’m
    coming at it from the wrong angle and that’s why Warren & I are at
    odds.
    Hopefully by tomorrow I’ll have something useful.
    Marlene

  43. lydia_10 Says:

    Greetings to Everybody,
    I feel like I am coming out of a long dark tunnel,
    the last two weeks or so have been so hard and
    grueling. I quit on August 19th so it’s been 5
    weeks for me. The first couple of weeks were
    amazingly easy for me, at least much more so
    than I expected, with using the timer, abc’s,
    breathing, emailing, chatting with Steve, and
    the initial high of actually quitting, how empowering
    that has been for me.
    Then BAM! CRASH! Intense rollercoaster emotions,
    tons of grief, major panic and anxiety attacks
    like I have never experienced in my life,
    depression, despair, what’s the point of quitting,
    grieving for my dear loving cigarettes who would

    soothe and comfort me… if only I wanted to be
    a smoker… but I DONT want to be a smoker for
    crying out loud … so I kept hanging on for dear
    life, on the hope that all of this had something
    to do with quitting, and was normal and to be
    expected… I went for acupuncture, therapy,
    chiropractic, chinese herbs, massage, weeping
    sessions with my friend, natural hormones, and …
    I’m feeling better! knockonwood, breathe.
    Didn’t smoke. Don’t want to be a smoker.
    Thanks to all who’ve stayed in touch on this list,
    it has been a lifeline, and thanks most of all
    to Steve. Love, Annie

  44. lydia_10 Says:

    Cori wrote:
    << I need to remember that everything has a solution and that smoking ISN”T
    the answer.
    The above sentence is a keeper…
    And thanks Cori — it is truly helpful to know that others
    experience similar stuff. Steve’s suggestion about taking
    care of the body, when the mind and emotions are a
    wreck, is such simple, obvious and awesomely important
    advice for me. Annie

  45. lindsay100 Says:

    I’m having trouble getting the sigmacht “initialized”. I will try it again.
    Are you going to be around at all this am? sylviaed

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