Hi

,
this last hour I’ve been working over my “anxiety”. I drank tea, I’m chewing
gum, I just came back of walking…and still…I feel “anxiety”. Of course my
first response is “it’s because i don’t smoke”. Afterwards I think: “perhaps
even smoking I would feel this awful feeling”.
When I read your messages it seems to me that everyone can think about, or go
for a walk , or “do something” and that “right away” feel better.
I wanted to ask you if your experience is that with time, this moments are more
tolerable . If afterwards, you don’t think “directly” about smoking. I suppose
(and read in the messages) that this is easier for you, because I found that
cogquit is very , very useful ; but I’m suffering a lot.
Perhaps I’m suffering a lot because I ‘m doing it harder for me : I don’t smoke
a few days…I buy cigs. I smoke two in a day…I throw them. I pass some more
few days…I ask for one. I think this is the worst !!!!
I need ,please, your help for changing this “stupid” way of quitting. Or

perhaps, this is the way I can finally quit?. I really don’t know.
By the way, I want to tell you that my anxiety disappear while writing . Aleluya
!
I know that finally everybody can find what he needs. But once I quit for 9
months. It was really painful for me, and finally I smoked again (after so much
work!!!). I ‘m afraid that this will happen to me again, and I when I feel
really bad…I buy or I smoke…and afterwards I go on with my quit.
Thank you for sharing with me this difficult moments !!!
Regards.
Silvia

33 Responses to “Hi”

  1. Neva Marjory Says:

    Silvia - you said
    Absolutely, yes. The key things here are that your body is
    constantly going to be in a state of withdrawal (with all the
    accompanying symptons) if you smoke occasionally; also, working on
    your smoking behaviour is nigh impossible if you respond sometimes
    to stresses and triggers by smoking. Trying to quit this way is
    going to be a long painful process again for you.
    The ‘doing something’ is about addressing the ‘need’ of the moment
    in a more appropriate way than smoking, and one that meets that need
    of that moment. It does take time to listen to our bodies and work
    out what it is we need when we think only a cig will do the trick.
    You’ll feel better right away if you’ve worked out what’ll help you
    in that moment. So, if you’re feeling irritable and think only a cig
    can help - what does irritable feel like? physically? shallow
    breathing maybe, muscle tension in the neck and shoulders? anything

    else? For yrs probably you - and all of us most probably -
    connected the so-called relief a cig gave us with that discomfort.
    This is where addressing the need of the moment in a more
    appropriate way comes in - some breathing and stretching exercises
    will help ‘treat’ those symptons much more effectively than a
    lungful of smoke from a cig.
    It took me time and practice to be ablt to recognise what I was
    feeling and what it was that I needed. With practice it became
    automatic, and that meant that I stopped thinking ‘I need to
    smoke’. I don’t connect cigs with those feelings any more.
    writing . Aleluya !
    Maybe sitting down and writing and focussing your thoughts ‘did it’.
    You were saying that you’d drunk tea, chewed gum and been out
    walking, but still felt anxious. What did your anxious feel like?
    And what do you think it was about writing that helped that anxiety
    to disappear?
    Sorry to fire so many questions at you :) this really is a ‘thinking
    quit’. There aren’t any magic answers or solutions and no quick
    fixes. It really is about listening to ourselves and our bodies,
    and finding what works for us to help us deal with all those moments
    and events that make up our days, those moments that used to have us
    flying off for our smokes.
    take care
    Pam
    PS Have you worked on a Foundation Statement yet for yourself?
    — In CognitiveQuitSmoking@y…, “Silvia Wajnbuch” <silviawr@i…

  2. Raleigh Missy Says:

    Hi Sylvia,
    Are you sure you’re not confusing ‘being ready to quit’ with the
    ‘ability to carry on without smoking’? They aren’t necessarily the same
    thing. In past quit attempts, most of us threw away our cigarettes and did
    our best not to pick another up…. for as long as we could hold on.
    First there was detox, that’s a fairly short term and usually foggy
    experience much like a really bad flu. Assuming we get through the first
    few days and through detox, and we expect that the quit will get easier.
    Toward the end of the first week, with the return of some degree of
    thinking and no cigs in sight to deal with the growing anxiety and stress,
    it usually gets harder. And it can get harder still toward the end of the
    second week, as the effort begins to grind and wear us down and the
    ‘easier’ that we’d hoped for just isn’t happening. This is part of the
    territory for most quitters regardless of how they quit.
    However, after the first few days, most of what we have to deal with is

    the behavior we established where we would feel some discomfort (everything
    that goes with the first few weeks of a quit) and want to reach for a cig
    to relieve the discomfort. The reasons why, the perceived benefits, and a
    list of other points in the smoking pattern are all food for other posts.
    My point here is just that we usually don’t suddenly acquire the ability to
    hang on and not smoke. While many of us try quitting many times before we
    succeed, that’s usually because we learn very little from each failure. I
    think that in the early part of a quit many of the stresses we feel are
    associated with either our reasons for wanting to light up or the
    consequences of not lighting up. The fastest way to find some relief and
    get the quit going easier is to start to do something active to get
    involved in your smoking process which is: feeling an event, believing
    something about it (that a cigarette will help), and associating the
    standard response(an urge to light up).
    You don’t need to be quit to start to put together tools for a quit.
    Have you worked out some foundation statements for you? BTW, you can still
    be smoking and have foundation statements. We all have them all the time
    about many things. They are always ‘what we really want’, and somewhere
    deep inside, we usually know what we really want. Some time ago I
    suggested that you try to make notes in a list or journal several times a
    day regarding what you were feeling, where, and how. These ‘feelings’
    could be anything from hunger to anger to boredom to cold. How did that
    work out for you? Those feelings that you experience are the events that
    set off urges to smoke.
    What about the rest of you newbies and any of you longer term
    quitters who feel you need to revitalize your quit? Have you worked out or
    reviewed your foundation statements?
    Lets start a list …. 3 times a day, stop, take 30 seconds, make a
    note in a journal or notepad that names what you’re feeling at that moment.
    The reason for this is that most of us are fairly oblivious, on a conscious
    level, of what it is we feel. Our urges to smoke are born of our routines
    and what they involve on both an external and internal level. The sooner we
    understand and are aware of our feelings during routine times of our day,
    the sooner we can begin to apply some techniques to change established
    patterns.
    If it’s early in the day do you feel the need to come alive, to wake up,
    to kick start the brain? Later on is it fatigue from hrs at work, or did
    you not eat breakfast so your body is dragging, have you been drinking
    coffee and/or using sugar? Different times during a day can have
    characteristic sensations. Note how and where in your body you feel these
    sensations i.e. stomach, shoulders, neck jaw, hands.
    In another day or two, we’re going to tackle some ABCs. If you’ve
    collected a few of your more common ‘feelings’ into a list, you’ll have a
    big part of the info you’ll use to flesh out your ABCs.
    Quitting is hard work. We can make it much easier with a few foundation
    statements and a short list of what we feel during a routine day. Try it.

  3. Lester Sierra Says:

    Just wanted to wish you well, Silvia………….
    My own experience was that I had to feel that a quit was NECESSARY
    ………
    (look in doctor’s eyes when she advised me I should)
    I had tried several times before with little success…….
    but this time seemed a little different……..
    (perhaps I HAD absorbed my doctor’s concern)……….
    I really never felt myself capable of quitting,
    but before I knew it a couple of days, and then a couple of weeks, had
    passed……..
    and I found myself feeling tremendously pleased with
    myself…………….
    WOW!!!!!!! (after that I could NOT give up - and I have lasted to this
    point 150 days!!!!!)
    I admit it is not clear sailing……………but every time I feel an

    urge to smoke I try to identify the trigger that caused the urge - and
    try to consider an alternative reaction…….
    I admit I am still learning (my backup reaction is one Werther’s
    Original - and I have to admit each one has increased my waist size) :) Best wishes, Silvia…………
    Jean

  4. Anna Stone Says:

    Steve,
    I agree 100% in what you, Pam, Cat and Jean told me.
    You wrote:
    “Lets start a list …. 3 times a day, stop, take 30 seconds, make a
    note in a journal or notepad that names what you’re feeling at that moment.”
    I didn’t do my “homework” (because you told me to do this before), but I began
    to do it today.
    I keep in touch and I’ll write back!
    Thanks again.
    I really don’t want to give up.
    Silvia

  5. Neva Marjory Says:

    Great to hear this Silvia :)) Looking forward to hearing how it’s
    going for you.
    take care
    Pam
    — In CognitiveQuitSmoking@y…, “Silvia Wajnbuch” <silviawr@i…

  6. Raleigh Missy Says:

    Good for you Sylvia. You’re going to begin to see changes very soon.
    Steve

  7. Fannie Santos Says:

    Guess I missed everyone in spinchat. Have not posted for a while-
    got good news today- all the results of all my tests are negative-
    the cancer is confined to the lung- so after a bit of radiation and
    chemo as a precaution I will have part of the lung removed and the
    outlook looks great. Feel like I have been given a second chance-
    have been quit since 11/22- still feel kind of rocky after a week in
    the hospital (w/ pneumonia) but that will get better. Cog quit has
    helped a lot- though amazingly, I still get cravings- hope they will
    stop- are not as frequent and easier to get through- hope to talk in
    spinchat some time- thanks to all for all the support.
    Diana

  8. Anton Sargent Says:

    this is my first time here. I quit on jan. 1, 2003…kinda late
    tonight,so i will check in tomorrow

  9. Marshall Steven Says:

    , everyone. I think I posted here before. I have known of this site
    for a couple of years now. I made up my foundation steps, ABCs and
    lists a long time ago. But only had the courage to make a serious
    attempt to quit a week ago. And now, I have been quit for 7 days. The
    foundation Statements really help because the arguments I have with
    myself about whether to light up are stressing enough to make me want
    to light up. But, with the foundation statements, I have the truth
    and I can’t trick myself out of it or reason my way into having a
    cigarette. I absolutely love these steps and have signed up for the
    workshop. Something I was wondering is whether or not anyone has
    ever tried having a face 2 face support/workshop based on cognitive
    quitting? I think that would be fabulous and would actually love to
    try one in my town. Anyway, thank you to whoever came up with this
    and for everyone keeping this site up.
    Shelly

  10. Arthur Mariah Says:

    Rachelle,
    I agree with you, that would be great if someone would start an
    actual quitting support group. But, I’ve noticed that there are no
    support groups for quitters anywhere…they’re only on the web. I
    think it’s outrageous.
    Well, congrats on the 7 days.
    Take care,
    Slvrymoon (sunny)

  11. Kelvin Janessa Says:

    Shelly,

    I agree with you that a real life cognitive quitting workshop would
    be beneficial. What town are you in? Do you know of about 6-10 others
    who would be interested in a workshop? :) Steve

  12. Carissa Cristal Says:

    everybody, I feel like a professional quitter when it comes to
    smoking. I have quit several times for as long as six months only
    to crumble….. I am 38 years old and have smoked for 9 years. I
    could use some help. Thanks
    Dean

  13. Neva Marjory Says:

    everyone, I’m new to this site. I have been quit for 6 days. I
    have quit so many times in the past, I pray this is my last one. I
    definately want this to be. Take care.
    Charles

  14. Neva Marjory Says:

    everybody, I’m new to this site, I quit smoking 3 weeks ago, but
    this past week, I’ve slipped 4 times. After reading the info on the
    cognitive quit smoking site, I feel better prepared. I’ve reset
    my “gadget” on another site which I think mentally helps when I can
    look and see how many days, hours etc. I’ve been quit. I was using
    the gum to help, but my slips were not due to craving nicotine but
    due
    to my “habit”. I’ve written out the foundation statements and am
    going to keep a copy with me. I’ve started trying to sketch out some
    ABCs and have started the time sheet. I’m not ready to give up this
    quit and am still optimistic I can succeed given the right tools. I
    must say this site was well written, informative, and one of the few
    that deals with the behavioral aspects of quitting and not just
    saying
    to hang tough it will get easier. I’ve been a smoker for 32 years

    and
    have tried numerous ways to quit. I have seen first hand what
    smoking
    can do as I lost my husband last year to lung cancer. So I’m back in
    the saddle with a few more tools in my belt and ready to continue on
    this journey. Gerri

  15. billie_1700 Says:

    Gerri,
    Youv’e got a great attitude, I too smoked for 32 years, this time I was
    ready to quit and luckily for me I found this cognitive quit site. what a
    Godsend
    for me, I have done it and I have not had any nicotine for Three months,
    one week, two days, 18 hours, 49 minutes and 30 seconds. 2494 cigarettes not
    smoked, saving $523.65. Life saved: 1 week, 1 day, 15 hours, 50 minutes.
    This does work and helped to make this time an easy quit. The difference is
    the knowledge and the tools we now have, sometimes I am mad that i waited so
    long. I feel great, like a new person, no more wheezing,& lots of
    energy,,,now its time to shed the extra pounds, I hope 3 months is long enough
    for my
    metobalism to straighten itself out, and hopefully I can use some of these
    tools to help keep the food out of my mouth:).
    Best Regards, Mary Rose

  16. Pasquale Robbin Says:

    ,
    I just found this group this morning. I had my first day as a non-smoker
    yesterday and it was a bit rough.
    I have been smoking for 20+ years over a pack a day for the most of it. In the
    last year I have cut it down to between 1/2 - 3/4 of a pck/day.
    Right now I am using the patch. There are certain times that are very difficult
    for me and others not so bad.
    I really don’t want to smoke anymore. I want to be a nonsmoker, I just don’t
    want to do the quitting part!!8-} It makes me crazy!!
    Anyway…Look forward to chatting,
    Heather

  17. Arthur Mariah Says:

    everyone, it’s been a while since I posted. I have quit many times
    since I’ve joined this forum. This quit has been my longest, 4.5
    months now. It was pretty easy, at first, but lately it’s been very
    hard. I am very familiar with the cognitive quit methods. Does living
    without smoking get any easier after a certain time? I just get tired
    of the battle lately in my head, smoke or not to smoke. And in the
    past it would just be easier to give in than the keep up the battle.
    Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
    Sunny

  18. Tad Zena Says:

    my name’s jen
    it is officially 4 days since my last cigaret. I drink alot of herbal
    tea to stay calm. try to relax. BUT i can’t stop thinking about smoking
    and cigarettes. I quit once before for 5 years but then life got to me.
    i’m spending $5 a day on average (that’s almost $2000 per year), can’t
    breathe (have asthma), and my kids are always complaing about my
    smoking. And yet still I can’t stop thinking about cigarette\s and
    smoking. it’s constant.

  19. Kelvin Janessa Says:

    Hi Jen,
    Welcome to the group. Congrats on your 4 days.

    Jen, here’s why telling yourself cigarettes are bad doesn’t help you think
    about them less or crave them less… because your body is telling you that
    it has some very specific needs and you’re not giving it anything that will
    deal with those needs.
    By way of explanation, picture this… you’ve quit, you’re several days
    off of cigarettes and the change in nicotine level is creating all sorts of
    withdrawal symptoms (this happens even if you use the patch, there’s a 3-4
    day initial adjustment). Those withdrawal symptoms, if you’re like everyone
    else (and most of us humans are like other humans where a particular
    chemical is involved), include tension in your neck and shoulders and
    maybe your jaw, shallow breathing to the point that you may also be holding
    your breath, and a tight knotted feeling in your stomach. There are others,

    but these are the most common body cues that come with quitting. Up until
    now, any time your body experienced those body cues of tension and shallow
    breathing, there was an automatic association to smoke. That was
    established long ago when you first became addicted to nicotine and you
    ‘learned’ that a cigarette was the best way to relieve the discomforts of
    being too long without a cigarette. That sounds pretty obvious, and it was.
    Smoking became your automatic and immediate response to any body cues that
    suggested withdrawal.
    Now that you’ve quit and are feeling ‘withdrawal’, your body is saying
    “Gimme a cigarette!!” because it knows of no other response that works. So
    it’s up to you to provide something else. The only thing I know of for
    tense muscles is some simple stretching. The only cure for shallow
    breathing is taking some deep breaths. Just telling yourself that smoking
    isn’t good for you doesn’t help the muscle tension or the breathing. See
    where this is going? In the same way, a hobby doesn’t help deal directly
    with those physical needs. Nor does drinking herbal tea even though it’s
    touted as a ‘quit aid’. Actually taking care of the physical needs, the
    body cues, that require attention is the only way to stop thinking about
    smoking.
    Pam suggested you look at the Time Exercise. It’s a really simple way to
    remind yourself to do something that’s not your habit to do…. and that’s
    to take a moment once an hour and check in with your body. Ask “what is my
    body needing? what can I do to accurately take care of it?” This will help
    you begin to be aware of the subtle body cues that have always triggered an
    urge to smoke.
    Jen, if you have any questions about how to start doing the Timer Exercise,
    just let me know and I’ll help you put it together.
    You don’t have to hang on trying to tell yourself not to smoke. You can do
    some very simple things that will make it infinitely easier.
    Steve

  20. Kelvin Janessa Says:

    Hi Jen,

    In a general sense, yes. The timer exercise focuses your attention on some
    things that you feel, things that you’re not normally aware of.

  21. Tad Zena Says:

    It has offically been one week. I started one of those timer things
    today. It was okay. It mainly made me pay more attention to what I was
    feeling. Little bits of tension start in the middle of my back and work
    their way up until I’m stressed out and start wanting a cig. I’ve been
    trying different things when I notice I’m tense. Looking at it and
    trying to fix it without picking up a cig. The tea helps but it’s going
    to take more than that. Last night I did yoga. Today I just took a hot
    shower as soon as I felt the tension. It’s hard because I had to give
    up coffee at the same time. Without cigs to slow me down coffee makes
    me extremely hyper. I am finding that I’m actually getting things done
    and starting to desire more activity. I actually want to do things
    besides just smoke. I just hope this lasts. My lungs feel like garbage
    still.

  22. Kelvin Janessa Says:

    Hi Diane,
    Congrats on making it to a week quit. Are you using any NRT? Are you
    working with your body cues?

    It’d be wonderful if that happens. However, if you don’t know how that
    click happens or what created the click, what’s to prevent it from clicking
    back the other way some time down the road?
    Being aware of your body cues and retraining your autopilot will give you
    control of the click. And speaking of ‘clicks’… Mairead says that
    having an auto pilot is like sitting next to your spouse and they’ve got
    the tv remote control. Sometimes they’ll ‘click’ on a show you want to
    watch and sometimes they’ll ‘click’ elsewhere. The timer exercise is a way
    for you to take the remote and watch what you want. (Wonder how she came
    up with that analogy)
    Weight gain is pretty much entirely up to you. It’s not a crap shoot. What

    you eat and what exercise you engage in will determine your weight.
    Steve

  23. Kelvin Janessa Says:

    Hi Jen,

    Actually, that may be easily explained. Our bodies need food/fuel in the
    right proportions (carbs, protein, fat) at appropriate intervals. Too much
    too frequently and we gain weight because we don’t burn it all and instead
    store it as fat. Too little and your body behaves as though it’s in
    starvation mode and whatever is eaten gets stored and you burn lean muscle
    instead.
    As contradictory as this sounds, you have to eat in order to lose weight.
    With a proper diet eaten at appropriate times your body will burn the fuel
    you give it rather than storing most of it.
    Feeling thirsty is a very good sign. Let your body tell you what it needs.
    Steve

  24. Kelvin Janessa Says:

    Diane,
    If you were 7 or 8 days nicotine free, you no longer had an active nicotine
    addiction. While there would have been some physical symptoms of recovery
    i.e. lung and sinus clearing, sleep difficulties, some mental fog, and
    possibly some emotional upset… you were well past the chemical need feed
    cycle. By introducing nicotine to your body again via the nicotine inhaler,
    you’ve take a step backward.

    There was no physical craving for nicotine, not after a week nicotine
    free. There were, however, lots of physical needs that you assumed were
    about nicotine. They would have been muscle tension, shallow breathing,
    moodiness/irritability, and likely a few others. All of which are normal
    and part of life.
    And? What are you observing when you do those scans and what action are
    you taking based on what you observe?

    What do you mean by “feeling something physical”? You have to be more
    specific. Which is also part of why you feel something is missing. Taking
    your mind off it for a few minutes is NOT the objective. The objective is
    to recognize your body cues and take very specific and focused action to
    deal with them. Which brings us back to the timer exercise. The information
    you need in order to effectively deal with your body cues is exactly the
    information the timer exercise provides. Diane, have you followed the
    exercise at all since the notes you posted last May?
    Steve

  25. Neva Marjory Says:

    Hi there Diane (I’m one too, but with 2 “n’s”)
    Don’t be discouraged, keep with it. I’m tempted to give Steve a
    small smack on the hand, but he is a straight shooter, which I have
    come to appreciate over time! What you are reading is an indicator
    of his level of conviction regarding cog. quitting, so take heart.
    Diane, anyone on a boat, in the conditions you described, is going
    to be having some stress in a lot of different ways. Stress is
    something that our society seems to think that we need an instant
    cure for, but is actually normal. It’s our body and mind
    saying, “what are you doing (you fool)????”, to which “we” often
    don’t have resonable answer!! Because we think we need instant cures
    for stress, and with our history as smokers, hey presto the thought
    jumps to mind. The body cue you were experiencing was probably “I
    am cold, stiff and getting bumped about, and a bit concerned”, to
    which the response should be “get the hell off this boat”, which

    isn’t practical when you are in the middle of the sea. There are
    very few reasonable non-smoking responses (apart from making
    yourself as comfortable as possible) but smoking isnt a response
    either…it aint going to make you any less cold, stiff or bumped
    about!! (Don’t forget those foundation statements). Respond as well
    as you can to your body cues, given the circumstances, and accept
    that life has stress at times.
    I can relate to the needing to have something in your hand, but it
    will pass, and I would suggest that if you spend anymore time in
    high seas, rosary beads might be of benefit;). Just keep fine
    tuning concentrating on body cues, and responding to them, your
    hands will get over it.
    If you feel that you aren’t “getting” the abc’s, go back to the
    timer and making notes, send them to Steve or Pam, they should be
    able to help you out there. I’m not sure, but Pam might even have
    a “sample” set of notes, so you can see how other people do it?
    The adjustments your body is making at the moment are all good
    signs, but obviously inconvenient…good ole fashioned remedies to
    help you sleep (having a bedtime routine, a warm drink, 10 minutes
    reading, and a comfy bed, etc), I know that you are well hydrated,
    but the digestive changes may be helped by more water, and upping
    the fruit in your diet (day old fruit salad, kiwifruit…).

  26. Kelvin Janessa Says:

    Diane,
    You’re right. I am saying that I see you struggling because you’re not
    grasping it. I also know why you’re not grasping it AND what you can do
    about it. The good news is that you don’t have to do it alone. The better
    news is that it’s probably much simpler than you think.
    First, forget about the ABC exercises. In order to do those with any degree
    of effectiveness you have to have accurate data from the timer exercise.
    The notes you posted last May were a start but weren’t nearly accurate
    enough or on target. We can fix that within a day or two if you’ll work
    with me. Will you?
    We need to get you more in touch with your body cues whether it’s on a
    lurching boat or sitting in front of your computer. About smoking simply
    because someone next to you is smoking… one of the core truths I’ve
    learned is that there is always a physical element that’s involved in the
    urge to smoke. That we usually don’t see it is only because we’ve never had

    a compelling reason to look deeper. You have a compelling reason now, you
    want to quit. Lets get you looking more closely at that area that’s always
    been below your radar.
    Diane, dig out your timer and set it hourly tomorrow. Use the template below:
    1-time-
    2-situation-
    3-body cues-
    4-non smoking responses-
    1-time-
    2-situation-
    3-body cues-
    4-non smoking responses-
    1-time-
    2-situation-
    3-body cues-
    4-non smoking responses-
    Copy and paste this several times to create enough entries.
    1- time will be whatever time it is when your timer buzzes (or whatever
    noise it makes)
    2- situation is whatever you are doing when the timer buzzes. only a couple
    of words re: what’s happening in the moment.
    3- body cues are parts of your body i.e. stiff neck, ache between shoulder
    blades, stiff back, breathing, etc (anxious is not a body cue, it’s a
    condition that includes the body cues of tense muscles and shallow
    breathing and any other way physical way you experience anxiety)
    4- non smoking responses are simple direct effective responses to whatever
    body cues you observe. if neck is stiff, move it. if your breathing is
    shallow, take a couple of deep breaths.
    Please try to take these notes over a 6-8 hour period. I need to see them
    when you’ve finished in order to make any suggestions necessary to ensure
    that you’re doing them optimally.
    This approach is simple and it works if we go step by step. If you’ll allow
    me to direct your efforts you will grasp this and be on track in short order.
    Diane, often chat will facilitate answering questions and clearing up
    confusion faster and more directly than email. Would you want to meet in
    the chat room? I expect to be available tomorrow (Wed) from about 5pm EST on.
    Steve

  27. Araceli Cherry Says:

    I think flopsy made a good point when she said
    Stress is
    something that our society seems to think that we need an instant
    cure for, but is actually normal.
    and
    Because we think we need instant cures
    for stress, and with our history as smokers, hey presto the thought
    jumps to mind.
    Put in very simple terms, as smokers we all knew that ‘ahhhh’ feeling when we
    had been going through nicotine deprivation and finally got to light up. And we
    all know what if feels like when we’re craving nicotine - antsy, difficult to
    concentrate, shallow breathing, irritable etc etc. Warren quickly caught on
    that ‘antsy/difficult to concentrate/foggy headed/shallow breathing/tensed up
    muscles/ irritable’ could be cured by a smoke, and from then on offered up a
    smoke, whatever the cause of those physical cues. Thats where hang-on

    quitters fall over - they’ve never realised that connection existed, never
    learned how to deal with the physical cues (or even be aware of them) A
    cigarette was an instant fix - but how do never-smokers deal with stress and all
    the physical cues stress brings?
    At this moment I feel HUGELY stressed as I’m about to set off for a dental appt
    to have a wisdom tooth extracted. How do I feel? Stressed with a capital S.
    How does that translate physically? No suprises here - fear which translates as
    churning stomach, shallow breathing, tense muscles. Its absolutely nothing to
    do with nicotine dependency, and the only the only urge I feel is to get it all
    over with. It doesn’t have any connection with a cigarette whatsoever cause I
    retrained Warren a long time ago. I’m doing a lot of deep breathing, some
    simple shoulder stretches and thinking of other more pleasant things. Stress is
    part of life - and I so much enjoy being able to deal with it without having to
    claw at a cigarette. Hope you’ll give the timer a go!
    Pam
    Oh, I also had a small whine about it last night - but I reckon I was allowed
    that small luxury before getting on with the practicalities

  28. Kelvin Janessa Says:

    Diane,
    I’m glad you’re willing to go at this again. However, I’m hesitant to have
    you spend an entire day with a timer if it’s not being done correctly.
    You’ll only become more frustrated and discouraged if you invest a day and
    don’t get the expected, or hoped for, results. What I’m thinking is that
    before you do the timer exercise again, can we get together in chat and go
    over some of this? I’m available most evenings from about 5pm EST. When
    would work for you?
    We can talk about how to think ahead for the party on the weekend.
    Steve

  29. Ana Myers Says:

    I thank you for the welcome to the list. I quit smoking just past midnight on
    this New Years Eve. Five days ago. I am just a mess because I want to smoke so
    bad , but am determined I will not. I know if I light up one I am right back
    where I started from. Any advice you guys can give me will really be
    appreciated. Thanks
    Irma

  30. Ana Myers Says:

    I have done a bit of reading the material you suggested. I have done some
    breathing exercises and some stretch. WOW I am trying to reach for a glass of
    water over time I get an overpowering urge to light up.Thanks for the warm
    welcome and all the good info.
    Irma

  31. Kelvin Janessa Says:

    Irma,
    Any time you get an urge, think of it as an indication that some body
    cue(s) needs attention. Look at your posture, look at what you’ve
    been doing (or not doing) over the past 15-30 minutes. Then do a
    quick body check… are there tense muscles, how is your breathing?
    Consider also when you ate last or if you’re tired and need a rest.
    Water is probably ok simply because most of us don’t drink enough
    anyway. However, most people find that unless they’re actually
    thirsty, a couple of deep breaths and some stretching deals more
    directly with the source of urges.
    Have you set a timer and started writing out some hourly notes?
    That’ll fast track you to recognizing your body cues.
    Steve

  32. Ana Myers Says:

    I was not able to download the timer template. I am trying to keep some record.
    Irma

  33. Kelvin Janessa Says:

    Nothing more than this:
    Time-
    Situation-
    Body Cues-
    Rational Responses-
    copy and paste that as often as you need it, or write it out on paper.
    This format collects 4 bits of info once an hour:
    Time- when your timer goes off
    Situation- what you’re doing when it goes off
    Body cues- at the moment
    Rational responses- the most effective way to deal with the body cues.
    The reason for making these notes is that at the end of a day, with
    6-10 hourly entries, unless you take notes, you won’t remember all
    the details. And after 2-3 of doing the timer exercise, you’ll have
    collected a fair bit of personal info. Specifically, 1- when certain

    situations occur, 2- what body cues go with which situations, and 3-
    the best ways to deal with those body cues.
    Irma, if you’d like to post your timer notes here, or send them to me
    off list, I’ll make whatever suggestions I think will move you ahead
    fastest. After 2-3 days or doing the timer exercise, it’ll be time to
    start preparing for anticipated situations. That’s the step that will
    turn your behavior back to automatic. But at that stage you will have
    disconnected the smoking response. What that means basically is that
    relapse becomes an non issue. But it all starts with getting to know
    your body cues accurately and quickly. So set that timer :) Steve

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