Comments on: More to the newbies http://www.smoking.wordpress-by.org/2004/07/27/more-to-the-newbies/ Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:48:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: Neva Marjory http://www.smoking.wordpress-by.org/2004/07/27/more-to-the-newbies/#comment-1435 Neva Marjory Mon, 02 Aug 2004 03:41:02 +0000 http://www.smoking.wordpress-by.org/2004/07/27/more-to-the-newbies/#comment-1435 hi Steve, glad to hear that others are lazy too :) i think all the time and try to avoid cigarettes as an answer to anything. thanks. seven hi Steve,

glad to hear that others are lazy too :) i think all the time and try to avoid cigarettes as an answer to anything.
thanks.
seven

]]> By: Raleigh Missy http://www.smoking.wordpress-by.org/2004/07/27/more-to-the-newbies/#comment-1434 Raleigh Missy Sun, 01 Aug 2004 13:18:38 +0000 http://www.smoking.wordpress-by.org/2004/07/27/more-to-the-newbies/#comment-1434 Hi Seven, you wrote: "..once you realize the idea behind the ABC stuff it's easier not to smoke. i'm to lazy to write such things down etc. but just the thought that the cig isn't the one and only answer to everything is enough." Most of us are too lazy to write it all down. Try this.... don't write, just 'think' about 3 events that will happen tomorrow. They can be any events, like meetings, lunch, the drive to work, the drive home, getting up in the morning, breakfast etc. For each event, think of two or three things that you can expect to feel when the event occurs. For instance, if it's lunch and you're hungry, you'd feed the sensation of an empty stomach. If it's getting up in the morning, you might feel physically sluggish and mentally groggy. If it's a drive in traffic, you might feel tension. Today or tonight, collect those thoughts about the events and the sensations you expect to feel. Tomorrow when each event occurs, see if you <!--more--> really do experience what you expected to feel. Test reality against what you thought it would be. Pay attention not just to what you're feeling, but also to what and how you are thinking. This is practice in being aware of what we feel so that we might choose an appropriate response. Again, many of us are too lazy to write things down. But we can think. In fact, we are thinking all the time, constantly. Take advantage of that and work at directing your thinking where smoking thoughts or behaviors are concerned. Steve www.cognitivequitting.com Hi Seven,
you wrote:
“..once you realize the idea behind the ABC stuff it’s easier not to smoke.
i’m to lazy to write such things down etc. but just the thought that the
cig isn’t the one and only answer to everything is enough.”
Most of us are too lazy to write it all down. Try this…. don’t write,
just ‘think’ about 3 events that will happen tomorrow. They can be any
events, like meetings, lunch, the drive to work, the drive home, getting up
in the morning, breakfast etc. For each event, think of two or three things
that you can expect to feel when the event occurs. For instance, if it’s
lunch and you’re hungry, you’d feed the sensation of an empty stomach. If
it’s getting up in the morning, you might feel physically sluggish and
mentally groggy. If it’s a drive in traffic, you might feel tension.
Today or tonight, collect those thoughts about the events and the
sensations you expect to feel. Tomorrow when each event occurs, see if you

really do experience what you expected to feel. Test reality against what
you thought it would be. Pay attention not just to what you’re feeling,
but also to what and how you are thinking. This is practice in being aware
of what we feel so that we might choose an appropriate response.
Again, many of us are too lazy to write things down. But we can think. In
fact, we are thinking all the time, constantly. Take advantage of that and
work at directing your thinking where smoking thoughts or behaviors are
concerned.
Steve
www.cognitivequitting.com

]]> By: Neva Marjory http://www.smoking.wordpress-by.org/2004/07/27/more-to-the-newbies/#comment-1433 Neva Marjory Sat, 31 Jul 2004 22:41:24 +0000 http://www.smoking.wordpress-by.org/2004/07/27/more-to-the-newbies/#comment-1433 proven itself to be sure, but Zyban will kill in a lot more cases and not depending on dosage. that. I am and i just wanted to give a warning. this is something i have personaly expirienced, not something from the web ! now you know somebody who has nearly died. and not 'heard of somebody who had problems' i must admit that it is very efective as an aid for quit smoking (it makes so that smoking is no fun or relief/whatever anymore), but the side effects are horrible and severe. because of depression. i suffer from depression in the last 6 years or so - zyban had no effect on it. quit smoking had ! it's surprising for me - i thought that i'll get even more depressed, but i feel much better now. seven proven itself to be
sure, but Zyban will kill in a lot more cases and not depending on dosage.
that. I am
and i just wanted to give a warning. this is something i have personaly
expirienced, not something from the web ! now you know somebody who has nearly
died. and not ‘heard of somebody who had problems’
i must admit that it is very efective as an aid for quit smoking (it makes so
that smoking is no fun or relief/whatever anymore), but the side effects are
horrible and severe.
because of depression.
i suffer from depression in the last 6 years or so - zyban had no effect on it.
quit smoking had ! it’s surprising for me - i thought that i’ll get even more
depressed, but i feel much better now.
seven

]]> By: Neva Marjory http://www.smoking.wordpress-by.org/2004/07/27/more-to-the-newbies/#comment-1432 Neva Marjory Sat, 31 Jul 2004 15:26:29 +0000 http://www.smoking.wordpress-by.org/2004/07/27/more-to-the-newbies/#comment-1432 proven itself to be sure, but Zyban will kill in a lot more cases and not depending on dosage. that. I am and i just wanted to give a warning. this is something i have personaly expirienced, not something from the web ! now you know somebody who has nearly died. and not 'heard of somebody who had problems' i must admit that it is very efective as an aid for quit smoking (it makes so that smoking is no fun or relief/whatever anymore), but the side effects are horrible and severe. because of depression. i suffer from depression in the last 6 years or so - zyban had no effect on it. quit smoking had ! it's surprising for me - i thought that i'll get even more depressed, but i feel much better now. seven proven itself to be
sure, but Zyban will kill in a lot more cases and not depending on dosage.
that. I am
and i just wanted to give a warning. this is something i have personaly
expirienced, not something from the web ! now you know somebody who has nearly
died. and not ‘heard of somebody who had problems’
i must admit that it is very efective as an aid for quit smoking (it makes so
that smoking is no fun or relief/whatever anymore), but the side effects are
horrible and severe.
because of depression.
i suffer from depression in the last 6 years or so - zyban had no effect on it.
quit smoking had ! it’s surprising for me - i thought that i’ll get even more
depressed, but i feel much better now.
seven

]]> By: Neva Marjory http://www.smoking.wordpress-by.org/2004/07/27/more-to-the-newbies/#comment-1430 Neva Marjory Fri, 30 Jul 2004 17:41:45 +0000 http://www.smoking.wordpress-by.org/2004/07/27/more-to-the-newbies/#comment-1430 hi all, so here's my story ;) i've quit (after 16 years of smoking) 8 days ago with acupuncture. it realy helps a lot with the withdrawl symptoms. day 1-3 was hell, but still was possible to survive. i've never succeeded to stay even 1 day clean before just so. even with Zyban. a big warning to everyone who reads this - DON'T USE ZYBAN !!! IT CAN KILL YOU ! i nearly died on it.... then, after the 3d day it got better, breathing is a lot easier and my hearth doesn't race anymore. i have found Steve's site and it was very helpfull. very nice written and true stuff. gave me some thoughts. once you realize the idea behind the ABC stuff it's easier not to smoke. i'm to lazy to write such things down etc. but just the thought that the cig isn't the one and only answer to everything is enough. it still is tough, but i don't have that much carvings, and i hope once i've belived that i've quit i'll stay clean for a long time. <!--more--> so, now a couple of questions - what do i have to expect form the near future ? when do one usualy has a crisis ? when beginns the coughing and when does it get better ? when do you feal a lot better ? thanks, seven hi all,
so here’s my story ;) i’ve quit (after 16 years of smoking) 8 days ago with acupuncture. it realy
helps a lot with the withdrawl symptoms.
day 1-3 was hell, but still was possible to survive. i’ve never succeeded to
stay even 1 day clean before just so. even with Zyban. a big warning to everyone
who reads this - DON’T USE ZYBAN !!! IT CAN KILL YOU ! i nearly died on it….
then, after the 3d day it got better, breathing is a lot easier and my hearth
doesn’t race anymore.
i have found Steve’s site and it was very helpfull. very nice written and true
stuff. gave me some thoughts. once you realize the idea behind the ABC stuff
it’s easier not to smoke. i’m to lazy to write such things down etc. but just
the thought that the cig isn’t the one and only answer to everything is enough.
it still is tough, but i don’t have that much carvings, and i hope once i’ve
belived that i’ve quit i’ll stay clean for a long time.

so, now a couple of questions - what do i have to expect form the near future ?
when do one usualy has a crisis ? when beginns the coughing and when does it get
better ? when do you feal a lot better ?
thanks,
seven

]]> By: pilar60 http://www.smoking.wordpress-by.org/2004/07/27/more-to-the-newbies/#comment-1429 pilar60 Fri, 30 Jul 2004 05:35:31 +0000 http://www.smoking.wordpress-by.org/2004/07/27/more-to-the-newbies/#comment-1429 Hi, Have to tell you that changing my thinking of smoking urges/cues from Nicodemon to Warren has helped so much. When I thought of the demon nicotene trying to ensnare me, a) my thought was, "gee, it's too powerful to fight. I'll never make it. If I do, I'll get tired of fighting it all the time, might as well smoke; and b) I was able to rationalize slips. "Too hard." "Too addicted." "Too Hi,
Have to tell you that changing my thinking of smoking urges/cues from Nicodemon
to Warren has helped so much. When I thought of the demon nicotene trying to
ensnare me, a) my thought was, “gee, it’s too powerful to fight. I’ll never make
it. If I do, I’ll get tired of fighting it all the time, might as well smoke;
and b) I was able to rationalize slips. “Too hard.” “Too addicted.”
“Too

]]> By: jannie_7 http://www.smoking.wordpress-by.org/2004/07/27/more-to-the-newbies/#comment-1428 jannie_7 Thu, 29 Jul 2004 05:27:54 +0000 http://www.smoking.wordpress-by.org/2004/07/27/more-to-the-newbies/#comment-1428 Thanks Pam - will do.Want to get to know this cognitive approach. afir Maryann Thanks Pam - will do.Want to get to know this cognitive approach.
afir
Maryann

]]> By: pilar60 http://www.smoking.wordpress-by.org/2004/07/27/more-to-the-newbies/#comment-1426 pilar60 Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:06:04 +0000 http://www.smoking.wordpress-by.org/2004/07/27/more-to-the-newbies/#comment-1426 Hi, Pam and everyone, Thanks for asking how it's going. It's definitely different this time -- thanks to the cognitive approach. I got to day 7, which was the dreaded Saturday, and my husband came home after 10 days away. I ended up smoking Saturday, and woke up with a horribly dry throat Sunday,and today I have been ill all day, trying to catch cold. I did not smoke yesterday, however; had a couple of urges at dinner with some neighbors. These neighbors don't smoke, so it was easier to ignore the urges. Last night I dreamed I smoked, though, and was disappointed when I woke this morning until it hit me that it was a dream. I'm still hanging in there -- have been writing furiously in my quit journal, and listening to some cessation tapes a poster on another board was kind enough to send me. They have helped, too. There are wonderful visualization exercises the tapes lead one through. Thanks again for asking! And best of luck to everyone. We can do it! <!--more--> --Harper Hi, Pam and everyone,
Thanks for asking how it’s going. It’s definitely different this time –
thanks to the cognitive approach. I got to day 7, which was the dreaded
Saturday, and my husband came home after 10 days away. I ended up smoking
Saturday, and woke up with a horribly dry throat Sunday,and today I have been
ill all day, trying to catch cold. I did not smoke yesterday, however; had a
couple of urges at dinner with some neighbors. These neighbors don’t smoke,
so it was easier to ignore the urges. Last night I dreamed I smoked, though,
and was disappointed when I woke this morning until it hit me that it was a
dream.
I’m still hanging in there — have been writing furiously in my quit journal,
and listening to some cessation tapes a poster on another board was kind
enough to send me. They have helped, too. There are wonderful visualization
exercises the tapes lead one through.
Thanks again for asking! And best of luck to everyone. We can do it!

–Harper

]]> By: jannie_7 http://www.smoking.wordpress-by.org/2004/07/27/more-to-the-newbies/#comment-1425 jannie_7 Wed, 28 Jul 2004 00:28:16 +0000 http://www.smoking.wordpress-by.org/2004/07/27/more-to-the-newbies/#comment-1425 Wow, Brenda, I can relate. It's a hard thing, fighting the nicodemon. I belong to Nicanon but have also joined CQS because I like the cognitive approach to quitting even though I don't understand it completely, yet. But I do realize that a different way of thinking about quitting has to be addressed along with the physical part. I'm trying to go with the flow of a craving and tell the nicodemon, 'Ok, you're attacking me again, but you'll go away in a minute and I'll still be smoke free". I find this works. If I fight and fight the craving, it makes it worse for me. Yesterday I was craving all day, no particular reason, no significant "triggers" just craving. So I went to an online meeting and that helped a lot. Do you know if CQS has online meetings? I didn't see any posted in the calander on site. Anyway, One day at a time and with your strong resolve, you can do this. Email me at mwanck@... if you want to chat. A friend in recovery (Afir) Maryann Wow, Brenda, I can relate. It’s a hard thing, fighting the nicodemon. I
belong to Nicanon but have also joined CQS because I like the cognitive
approach to quitting even though I don’t understand it completely, yet.
But I do realize that a different way of thinking about quitting has to be
addressed along with the physical part. I’m trying to go with the flow of a
craving and tell the nicodemon, ‘Ok, you’re attacking me again, but you’ll go
away in a minute and I’ll still be smoke free”. I find this works. If I fight
and fight the craving, it makes it worse for me. Yesterday I was craving all
day, no particular reason, no significant “triggers” just craving. So I went
to an online meeting and that helped a lot. Do you know if CQS has online
meetings? I didn’t see any posted in the calander on site.
Anyway, One day at a time and with your strong resolve, you can do this.
Email me at mwanck@… if you want to chat.
A friend in recovery (Afir)
Maryann

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