New member

Hi - I just joined the group, I was directed here by someone on
another Forum who thought this group might be more ‘me’. I’m tired
of trying to quit and failing, have run out of ways to tackle this
quit, and feel like its time to do something different or else I’ll
keep going round in circles. I envy people who manage this, I
wonder what it is I’m missing. I’ve smoked for about 30 yrs and
it’s time to call it a day before my health starts suffering. I
don’t know how I’ve got away with this for so long. Lots of
questions - I hope I can find some answers and something to work
with.
I live in Ireland (UK) but returning to the mainland sometime later
on this yr, husband, mortgage, 1 child, a good sense of humour (but
a short temper, I’m told! I deny that..)
Look forward to hearing some more
Katrina

41 Responses to “New member”

  1. Neva Marjory Says:

    Welcome Katrina!
    I’m glad you found this group, its a great source of ideas and
    encouragement, and quitting cognitively is very effective. There are
    people here at different stages in their quits - some who’ve been
    quit for yrs, others maybe just a few days - or maybe like you
    planning to quit. I’m one of the rookies here!
    I’m in London - where are you planning to move to when you return to
    mainland Britain?
    Good luck - I think you really have found the right place to be.
    Look forward to getting to know you
    Jan
    — In CognitiveQuitSmoking@y…, “katrina_105″ <katrina_105@y…

  2. Neva Marjory Says:

    Hi Katrina and welcome :) Hope you’ve had chance now to read over at www.cognitivequitting.com
    and get a feel for what we’re about here.
    I’m 4 months quit now, and I was just like you described, searching
    for that ’something different’ to help me quit. I found it here,
    and I hope you will too.
    Soon as you’re ready, start asking all those questions, and you’ll
    get all the answers.
    Carla
    — In CognitiveQuitSmoking@y…, “katrina_105″ <katrina_105@y…

  3. Rhea Sueann Says:

    Dear all,
    I’m very, very tentatively joining this group while still smoking and enjoying
    it but knowing I shouldn’t. For some reason I can’t access previous messages, so
    it would be nice to hear from some of you and see how you cope with not smoking.
    J

  4. Raleigh Missy Says:

    Hi Gord,
    Welcome to the group. Have you got your permission slip from that other
    group to be here? just kidding :) We won’t tell them. ;) Seriously though, 999 times and you’re having a rough time at 5+ months
    means maybe it’s time to step outside that box and do something different.
    Emotions are by far the most common trigger. The physical manifestation of
    our emotions is so close to that of the physical sensations that were
    connected to nicotine maintanance, that we have automatic responses already
    in place. The only way to disconnect those auto responses is to begin to be
    aware of which sensations we’re feeling at any particular moment and what
    caused them. At that point, different responses begin to be self evident.
    My suggestion to get you going would be to start to journal the
    emotional times. Make a list. Are there reoccuring events? Make note of the
    situations and particularly where and how you feel the emotions from a
    physical perspective. Most of us believe we would be more in control of our

    lives if we had more control of our emotions, and we probably would. It’s
    just that, I for one, will most likely aways being playing catch up with my
    emotions. I don’t honestly expect to ever really have ‘control’ of them.
    But I can certainly gain quite a lot of control over how I respond to the
    physical aspects of my emotions. In order to do that, I need first to
    become aware of what they are and when I’m experiencing them. Give that
    list a shot and see if it doesn’t start to create a change.
    Good to have you with us,
    Steve

  5. Neva Marjory Says:

    I am a new member. I think I am doing this correctly, finally. I
    have fiddled around with my quit for almost a year. Thanksgiving,
    2001. I chose 10/19/02 as my quit date. I wanted to share it that
    date with someone else thereby I hopefully will have more respect for
    it. Well, half way through day 3, again. But am glad to be part of
    a group.

  6. Neva Marjory Says:

    Just saying hello - I managed (finally) to subscribe to this group
    today. I’m on day 3 of my quit, and the old brain isn’t functioning
    too well. I’m tired of trying to quit and failing, and am pretty
    excited about finding a logical way to tackle this. Thankyou Steve
    for pointing me in this direction last night :) I’ve smoked for more yrs than I care to remember. I’m 50 now, and I
    want the next 50 to be nonsmoking ones. I live in England in Exeter,
    and work in Personnel. I’m divorced with a grown up family and love
    my independence! With more cash to hand I’m hoping I can do some
    more travelling.
    More next time,
    Jane

  7. Raleigh Missy Says:

    Tomorrow, Nov 29th, Jean reaches 11 months quit. Congratulations Jean :)

  8. Emil Qiana Says:

    thanks Steve - but I was a day ahead of myself…………….
    quite date 31 December…………so guess 11 months as of
    Saturday……….. :) Surely would not have done it without the input from people
    here……………
    Have read as some of you here now in the group are
    struggling………………
    and wished I had some magic input………………..
    Best I can do is say I am living,. breathing proof that quitting is
    possible………..
    Good luck to all
    Jean

  9. Raleigh Missy Says:

    :)) Pam, I think you folks are on the ‘wrong side’ of the Atlantic all
    the time, just that sometimes it’s later than other times. ;)

  10. Raleigh Missy Says:

    Hi folks,
    ABC’s are, in a nut shell, a graphic representation of how we
    experience an event, make or associate some beliefs, and then, based on
    those beliefs, react. It’s simple really. We can use the ABCs to ‘diagram’
    our smoking behavior and by extension, the urges we’ll have to deal with
    when we quit. Warren only ever chooses that which makes the most sense at
    the time. If you’ve ever seen Disney’s ‘The Sorcerer’s Apprentice’, Warren
    would be the broom. That’s a perfect image of Warren; he has a job, knows
    only that job, does it exactly the same time after time, and does it no
    matter what. Warren does what he does because a cig has always worked.
    Every time we lit up and felt a change, and there’s IS a change with every
    cig smoked (nicotine is a central nervous system stimulant and every
    inhalation creates a physiological response … heart rate, hormone
    secretion, constriction of blood vessels, and others). We were experts at
    ‘dosing’ ourselves depending on how we inhaled a cig (deeply or shallow)

    and that depended on our perceived ‘need’ at that moment. Every time we lit
    a cigarette and felt a change we revalidated that a cig was the ‘correct’
    choice so it’s no wonder Warren constantly and consistantly choose a
    cigarette response. (BTW, Warren also chooses other things. For instance,
    it’s Warren who notices a full bladder and sends us to the bathroom. His
    job is taking care of ALL the little automatic behaviors.)
    Back to the ABC’s…. because Warren functions automatically and we’re
    trying to find a way to influence his choices, we need to find a way to get
    in step with him so we can provide new (current and rational) options for
    response. One way to get ‘in step’ with him is to use our knowledge of
    routine events and how we’ve always behaved within those events. Two common
    ones are driving and starting the day.
    The old pattern was:
    A- Driving over to a friend.
    B- I need to smoke a few now so I’ll be able to ‘get through’ the visit
    without too much nic withdrawal discomfort.
    Based on that B (belief), Warren’s choice was invariably:
    C- Smoke several
    In order to change that to come in line with our current quit goals -
    A- Driving over to a friend.
    B- I used to believe that I needed several to keep me going. My foundation
    statements state that 1-I don’t want to be a smoker, 2- there is no
    situation where a cig is appropriate anymore, and 3- I can handle the
    discomfort. I do feel the physical sensation of some tension in muscles.
    Maybe a bit of apprehension about the drive and the demands driving places
    on my body and my mind. I can breathe, listen and sing to the radio, drink
    the water or fruit juice I brought. There is no compelling reason why I
    ‘need’ a cig, or several, to enjoy this outing.
    Based on that revised and very conscious B:
    c- I now have a number of alternative thoughts that require Warren and I to
    choose our reaction. It’ll be…. maybe breathe, or drink, or sing, or do
    nothing but be aware that we really don’t need a cig.
    Warren will follow where you lead. He’ll go where we ‘think’. The key
    is preparing new rational thinking and placing it in our mind so we’re
    ready to use it. I suggest setting up an ABC that will be used within 24
    hrs. That means planning for an event that will happen within that 24 hrs.
    The reason is that we’re trying to reroute automatic behavior that’s been
    established over years. If the event we’re trying to catch is too far down
    the road, our ABC will too likely be forgotten until it’s too late to
    really affect the choices Warren makes when the event occurs. Fresh in our
    mind is always better, otherwise the old thinking will happen and the first
    clue we’ll have will be an urge to smoke. One good way to be prepared for
    a drive is write this ABC out now, long hand is probably best as that will
    imprint it on your mind, and put it on the car dashboard so it’s right
    there when you start the car. That way you’re reminded and prepared to
    think differently.
    The ‘morning wake up routine’:
    A- Time to get up and go.
    B- Nicotine and caffeine is an effective combo.
    C-I’ll smoke one or two with my coffee.
    can be changed to:
    A- Time to get the day started.
    B- In the past a coffee and cig or two was my option of choice. Based on my
    current goals and foundation statements, coffee and cigs are not
    acceptable. Alternately, a shower first thing, some OJ and breakfast will
    provide more effective longer term energy. That’s a better way to start my
    day.
    based on those changed beliefs:
    C- I’ll shower first, eat second, and by dealing with the very sensations
    that Warren would be responding to, I’ll preclude the need for that morning
    cigarette.
    Write out this ABC and put it next to your alarm clock. Try it.
    Steve

  11. Emil Qiana Says:

    thanks, Caisy………..
    will watch for YOUR milestones……… :) Jean

  12. Denise Horton Says:

    Hello all I am a new member . I read some of the recommended files
    and I still unclear on the ABC’s. It seems that you go thru 3
    options for the action and how you feel. Maybe someone can explain
    this a little more. I am Two days, 6 hours, 18 minutes and using
    Zyban which may be altering my thoughts.
    In any event, I have decided to quit after thinking about this and
    planning for some time. My primary reasons are my future health and
    being there for my young son. Unfortunately, I relapsed after quiting
    for 3 years!! 12 years ago. I realize that smoking is an addiction,
    and one puff will send me back. So regardless of what happens in my
    life, I will not smoke to deal with it.
    Thanks,
    Angela

  13. Neva Marjory Says:

    Hello!
    I’ve just joined this group today. I’m planning on quitting smoking
    very soon and glad to have found this site. I’ve got tired of
    failing at this within a few grim days, and Steve tells me it can be
    made a much more simple process. I’m eager to learn more.
    I’m working on my lists now which I understand is the first step in
    this process.
    I look forward to getting to know you.
    Di

  14. Neva Marjory Says:

    I have been reading info on this sight and think it can help me. I
    have been on other quit smoking sights. I have been quit 54 days,
    but am still feeling a little rocky in my quit I would be glad to
    hear any suggestions that you have that might help me.
    Thanks
    FE

  15. Neva Marjory Says:

    Hello all,
    I stopped, ( I’m no quitter! lol! )smoking almost 8 mos ago. I
    have joined your group after talking w/ Steve or rather watching
    Steve in action over at quitnet. I have stopped smoking long enough
    that it is comfortable now. This has become easy and effortless.
    That’s not to say I don’t have days when I really *wish* I was still
    a smoker! On the whole this is an easy, almost effortless way to
    be. My user id on the ‘Q’ is ca-girl if anyone here “knows” me…
    BTW, steve, did you get the paper I e-mailed you?

  16. Joanne Kaley Says:

    Hello to all. This group was recommended by a good friend. I am on
    day one for the 6th time since February and really need to get a
    handle on staying quit for life. Longest quit-74 days, last quit 44
    days. I WANT to quit and I need to quit for my health. I am ready and
    willing to do whatever it takes to quit for life.
    Linda

  17. Grant George Says:

    welcome Linda. you’ve come to the right place for a comfortable and sustainable
    quit for life. Follow Steve and Pam’s instruction, do your homework and your
    quit will be much easier. We don’t hang on and struggle with not smoking, we
    just don’t smoke anymore. It’s not that easy but it is certainly more
    comfortable. It does take work. I’m at a little over two months and feeling
    very good. this is the best present you can give yourself. take good care and
    we’re all here to help you if you need it. Besure to check out the websites in
    Pam’s message.
    good luck
    Carol

  18. Neva Marjory Says:

    I just found Steve’s site and this group today, and glad to have
    found you. I’m hopeful this is the method which will help me quit
    for all times.
    I did read some confusing explanations of what this is all about and
    how to do an ABC over at Quitnet, so I was glad to get the story ‘as
    it is’ over at cognitivequitting.com today.
    Am doing my lists for Steve….. I’ll send those on to you Steve a
    bit later on, or tomorrow. I’ve sent you my IM details in an email
    and it will helpful to chat, I know.
    Glad to have found this group
    cheers
    Camilla

  19. Pablo Oleta Says:

    Hi, I am a grandmother of 7. I have been smoking for 40 years I am on
    oxygen from a lung operation. I know I need to quit. I loved the
    story about “Warren” I have been a Warren my entire life. I seem to
    need someone to show me. I generally stick to something until it is
    done. I am having great difficulties in getting the idea of why I am
    lighting up. I know it is from responses such as boredom, habit, and
    emotions. That is not my problem. My problem is dealing with it. I
    hope this group can offer some suggestions.
    I do all kinds of needlework and live alone. I can’t get outside much
    right now. I do good to get my trash out and my housework done. I
    have a neighbor who gets my mail and helps bring in my groceries and
    oxygen tanks. I think I need a “map” to get me started. I hope to
    find it here.
    Thanks.
    Cecile

  20. kirsten_19 Says:

    Hi. My name is Paula, and I have been smoke free for 3 days. It is not much,
    but it is 3 days into the rest of a smoke-free life. Any tips on how to deal
    with daily stressors? These seem to be the only thing that triggers my
    ‘lighting-up’.
    Ms. P.

  21. Charles Hickman Says:

    Hello Everyone;
    I would like to introduce myself.
    I am a very new member to this
    group. I only just signed up today!
    My name is Lynn,and I have been Quit
    smoking for a little over 15 Months.
    I am thus far pleased with the new found
    sense of freedom that my Quit has awarded;
    and I thought it would be a great idea to
    join your Cognitive Quit Smoking group,as I
    hope to learn more about what it really
    means to apply a cognitive approach.
    I am from Chicago,Illinois and I so look
    forward to being a productive member of
    this seemingly fine group. I look forward

    to chatting with some of you from time to
    time maybe. Thanking you in advance for having me!
    (Windy City,,Chicago; Lynn)

  22. Lara Hill Says:

    Hi everyone!
    My name is Brenda and I have been smoking for 24 years ARG. I spent the weekend
    gearing up for last night to be my last night as a smoker (a group of us went
    for hypnosis) I don’t think it took which of course made me more determined to
    succeed. I went 14 hours - ok 7 of them were sleeping but half weren’t,
    smokefree. At 8 am this morning my 17 year daughter (licensed for 10 days) was
    in a car accident. I rushed over there - the sight of all the emergency
    equipment is enough to freak you out! No serious injuries - car totaled - DD to
    hospital via ambulance - enough said - when we eventually got home found out
    there was serious complications in cousins delivery and the baby was airlifted
    to another hospital. I am a Realtor and have 2 really iffy deals that I’m
    dealing with and am really stressed. I plan on listening to the cd again tonight
    and starting over but I have way less enthusim and strength than I did 24 hours
    ago. I am going over the site again, but boy I sure could use some resolve.
    “If you want to change your life, change your mind.”

    ~author unknown~

  23. Neva Marjory Says:

    Hello,
    My name is Harley. I stopped smoking yesterday. I’ve yelled at my
    dog because her squeaky toy is annoying (but it really is). I
    haven’t gotten any work done at all today and just want to go to
    sleep. I guess I can expect this kind of ‘fun’ for a while.

  24. Neva Marjory Says:

    Hi All,
    New member here, Kimberly. Just joined and
    just quit.

  25. Candy Justina Says:

    Hi Kimberley - welcome to the group.
    If you haven’t done so already, head over to Steve’s site at
    www.cognitivequitting.com to read all about this approach to
    quitting. From there you can access the ‘Getting Started’ page,
    which explains how to get started on a cognitive quit. Ask any
    questions you’d like, and we’ll be glad to help.
    Tell us a bit about yourself? Have you quit before, and how are you
    approaching this quit?
    best wishes,
    Pam

  26. Neva Marjory Says:

    Morning everyone,
    I have been coming here for a while but just recently joined. Am
    looking for all the help I can get. I have tried to quit smoking
    sooooo many times. I am 5 days into my quit this time. I am on the
    14mg patch and for the most part am doing ok. I have a cognitive
    moment to share that I just had over the last 24 hours. This is a
    post that I made in another forum while asking for help with “ALONE
    TIMES”. It has haunted me in all my past quits and I think coming to
    the realization of why being alone was such a trigger for me is going
    to make a HUGE difference. This was my realization post………..
    This behavior started WAY BACK WHEN I was young and hiding to smoke.
    You brought back so many memories…..which is good, because I have
    been racking my brain as to why this is such a HUGE trigger for me.
    Up until your post, I was thinking this behavior had only started
    everytime I had been trying to quit and I would tell people I quit

    only to find myself sneaking around…..when actually, this thing
    goes WAY BACK. When I first started smoking, I used to hang out in
    the local school yard at night and on weekends. I would grab my
    cigarettes from my hiding places (I had many) and I would stuff them
    down my pants (oh my God) ….this is so cool because it feels like I
    am having a breakthrough here…..anyway, and then I would run to the
    school yard and meet up with all my friends and we would smoke like
    crazy….and then at the end of the night, we’d all put them down our
    pant legs again, go home, hide them, and make believe nothing went
    on. We did this for YEARS! I probably did this for 3 or 4 years!
    EVERYDAY! No wonder it is so ingrained. Then there were the woods
    that we would go through to get to and from school, and we would
    leave early in the morning so we could get our fixes…..and oh my
    God, I am really having a memory now…..No wonder I did so poorly in
    High School…..I had to cut classes to GET MY FIX!! (tears…..)
    In a million years, I would have never thought this. I have been
    blaming those terrible years on so many things…..never once did I
    give it a thought that cigarettes were a part of
    that……..UNBELIEVABLE!!! wow….too much. And there was so
    much “excitement” to that. The “getting away with it”, all that
    stuff. unreal. And the car thing too! Once I got my license, we
    would all jump in the car with our cigarettes and ride around and
    smoke to our hearts content. (my parents smoked, so the smell never
    made much difference)
    I have not yet had a chance to work on my new response to it, but at
    least I know what it is and where it comes from. Thanks to the
    cognitive website for explaining so well about the HABIT and for the
    tools to change this behavior…..Wish me luck….smile.
    Cheryl~

  27. Raleigh Missy Says:

    Hi Cheryl
    Welcome to our group.
    I think some of us share similar memories and experiences of our early
    days/years as smokers. There was a sense of freedom whenever we escaped the
    structure/authority of school and parents and were able to ‘be ourselves’
    either by ourselves or with friends.
    You wrote: “I was thinking this behavior had only started every time I had
    been trying to quit and I would tell people I quit only to find myself
    sneaking around”. What were you trying to find when you were “sneaking
    around”? Was it a sense of freedom? Of getting away from authority or maybe
    responsibility? As much as you may have been seeking some particular
    sensation or condition, what physical sensations in the moment were you
    trying to change?
    Lots of questions I know. But you’re already thinking along these lines.
    Hanging at the school yard and later riding around in the car eventually

    changes to life as me live it today. But our urges for certain states of
    being that we perceive as comfortable is something that’s a constant. What
    state of being are you trying to attain? I think that an ABC to deal
    with ‘alone times’ can only be constructed after we’ve defined those times
    a bit more clearly. Have you tried working with the timer exercise or
    using timer exercise type questions to examine your ‘alone times’?
    Steve

  28. Raleigh Missy Says:

    Hi Cheryl,

    Cheryl, you call it relief and I’m sure it was. A cigarette, particularly
    one inhaled deeply, provided ‘relief’ in about 8-12 seconds. A dose of
    nicotine cleared the head and improved mental acuity if only for a short
    time (actually it was very likely more the remission of the fog that
    results from a lowered nicotine level rather than an improvement above our
    norm), it results in the release of sugar into the blood stream which
    energized and ‘relieved’ tired or tense muscles, it was a couple of deep
    breaths (smokers are one of a small group of individuals who breath
    properly i.e. with their diaphram… athletes, wind musicians, babies, and
    smokers when they inhale deeply), and it modulated mood/emotion. So was
    smoking a cigarette relief? Absolutely. However, was smoking integral to
    our concept of relaxation? Probably. What you’ve described above… work
    breaks, alone in the car, grabbing a moment of ‘alone time’ at home… all

    of that is how you would relax. One of the more common questions among
    recent quitters is “How will I be able to relax without a cigarette?”. I
    know it will sound over simplified but the fastest way to begin to learn to
    relax without a cigarette is with stretching, deep breathing, and awareness
    of exactly what you’re doing and why. Which brings me back to the timer
    exercise. The goal of the timer exercise is to increase our awareness of
    the subtle body cues that we experience throughout a day. It’s those normal
    everyday body cues that have always been connected to relief by smoking.
    What I’m suggesting is that you work with the timer for a day or two
    because I have a hunch you’re not as aware of your body cues as you may
    need to be. And then begin to put together ABCs that will address the body
    cues you’ve identified via the timer.
    One ABC might look like this…
    “While I’m working on task X, and certainly when I finish, I’ll want to
    take a break. From my timer notes I know that…”
    A- I get tense in my shoulders and neck and my breathing is shallow because
    I’m hunched at my desk and my posture is/has been lousy.”
    B- In the past I “would go outside, butt in hand, sit down, and this great
    sense of “relief” would come over me”. Now I know that what I was really
    doing was relieving my body cues. When I take a break from task X I will go
    some place where I can do some simple stretches to relieve my muscle
    tension and stiffness. I’ll do some deep breathing to calm and refocus my
    mind. Maybe I’ll get some fruit juice for an energy boost.
    C- When I take a break I’ll stretch, breath, get a healthy energy boost.
    Steve

  29. Neva Marjory Says:

    I have an upcoming situation that I could use some help with.
    Several months ago before I quit smoking or even planned to quit, I
    scheduled a weekend getaway with the ladies at my cabin up north.
    Since I quit smoking about 2 weeks ago I have not gone to a bar or
    had more than 2 glasses of wine. Drinking and smoking have always
    been definitely related to me. Now, I really want to go on this trip
    but know that Friday night they will want to go out, and I’m not
    sure how to handle the situation. Because I haven’t been in the
    situation I don’t know what my body cues will be, but know that my
    mind will be screaming “Have a smoke, it tastes so good with a
    drink”.
    I’ve thought of stepping outside and taking a couple of deep
    breaths, bringing a smooth rock to rub so my hands have something to
    fidget with, and of course if it gets too bad leaving. I’ve also
    questioned whether I should even go or not, but really don’t want to

    punish myself by not going. None of the women I am going with smoke,
    so I am not too worried about the rest of the weekend, just the
    night at the bar.
    I am so anxious about it that it is making me crazy! This is always
    where I would fail in the past. It would be so hard for me to think
    about drinking without smoking that I would convince myself that I
    could smoke when I was out. My mind would say “just smoke when you
    go out, and that will be no problem”. Of course then I would want to
    go out all the time, and next thing ya know I was smoking all the
    time. I really do not want to smoke, but just can’t conceptually
    grasp the concept of drinking and not smoking. I’ve read and reread
    my foundation statement and rationally understand that smoking is
    never an appropriate response, but I have a really tough time
    actually believing that I can drink without smoking. I just don’t
    see it happening. At the same time I think if I can’t get a grasp on
    how to do it, I will end up smoking again because I enjoy being able
    to go out and have a couple drinks every now and then, and I don’t
    want to have to give that up. Any advice??
    Thaks - Amy

  30. Herbert Carolyne Says:

    Hi Steve,
    Hope you can help me with this one..
    Now almost 22 months quit… consider it very comfortable, 99% of the time
    now I don’t even think about smoking..
    The only time I ever consider it, doesn’t have physical clues, more
    emotional..
    It seems that most of women from the younger generation of our rather large
    family, smoke. At family gatherings, you will notice the eyes hint
    “?outside”, and they will all slip out for a smoke…. and it usually is a
    fun time, One daughter has a zany sense of humour, and her astute comments
    usually have us laughing…. and getting closer to each other.
    When I first stopped smoking, I didn’t go out with them, but I missed the
    camaraderie, and now join them again, but it really is a time I have to
    really fight the urge to smoke “just one”. I have to keep reminding myself
    of my foundation statements, telling myself I really don’t want to smoke

    again. ABCs have taught me to take a drink, and something to nibble with
    me, to keep my hands occupied, and to stretch my neck, because the
    tension that is generated by the urge tightens my neck and shoulders..
    Luckily these gatherings only happen once every couple of months.
    It has gotten easier over the months, and I have no doubt that eventually I
    will be able to join them without any hint of a crave…. but I am worried
    about an event coming up next week.
    I am going away with both daughters to a tropical resort for a holiday….
    they both smoke… and the last time I was there so did I.
    I am worried that my whole holiday will be spent fighting the urge to smoke
    with them….
    Any suggestions????? Please?????
    Thanks,
    Ozipam.

  31. Raleigh Missy Says:

    Hi Pam,
    I think that sometimes working around a particular situation requires a
    different perspective and not just a plan to respond differently.
    It’s great that you and your daughters enjoy each others company to the
    extent that you all do.
    Do you struggle with urges to smoke every time they are smoking or is it
    only those special times when laughter and closeness are shared?
    And are you sure there are no physical cues involved? I’ve got 3 daughters
    and I know that when we’re all together being a family I feel physical
    sensations (abdominal and chest).
    Steve

  32. Raleigh Missy Says:

    Hi Pam,
    Your post about your upcoming holiday with your daughters has been on my
    mind. The dynamic by which you associate smoking with a particular state of
    being that you experience when with them is interesting. It would appear to
    have nothing to do with the mechanics of nicotine. That in itself is not
    abnormal. But I’d like to be able to define the cues more clearly.
    I’m anxious to hear whether….
    Steve

  33. Adam Vaughn Says:

    Hi,
    I’m new here, and I love the support it helps me a lot.
    It’s been two weeks, and two days since I quit.
    My older brother is dying from lung cancer, which is a real eye opener when it
    hits so close to home, so if nothing else I want him to know how he helped me,
    and how I learned from it.
    Quitting is so hard, but the alternative is worse.
    Donna

  34. lydia_10 Says:

    << I’ll definitely check out the link, and I hope something appeals to me,
    and I don’t spend the rest of my life thinking how I’m not going to smoke that
    first one, but still thinking about it. Does the day ever come when you don’t
    think about it more than you think about it? Does that make sense? I’ve also
    been so weird since I quit, I don’t know how long I’ll be able to stand this,
    unless this will be the new me, what a thought. LOL
    Donna,
    For me, amazingly, it has happened very
    quickly that I think about it very little. I highly,
    highly recommend taking advantage of Steve’s
    coaching, and using the timer exercise.. for me
    it took only a few days, and changes began to
    happen very quickly, seemingly automatically.
    It has been two weeks for me. I am just coming
    out of the weird headspace and the rollercoaster

    emotions.. though I am still more oversensitive
    and touchy than normal.. but finding the cog
    tools completely effective in getting through.
    Warm wishes, Annie

  35. Adam Vaughn Says:

    Hi Annie,
    I wish something would happen to me very quickly. LOL
    Steve’s coaching, and using the timer exercise, are they in the link Getting
    Started? I haven’t read all of it yet, but I’m working on it. As far as coming
    out of the weird head space, I’m still there, and I keep hoping each day will
    get better, and I’ll become more like myself, but it has yet to happen.
    Donna

  36. Candy Justina Says:

    Hi Donna - the ‘Getting Started’ page sets out the steps to a
    cognitive quit. If you haven’t done so already, print it out, read it
    right through, and then begin work…… commiting to the Foundation
    Statements and then starting work with the timer
    The coaching is one to one support that Steve offers new quitters - I
    help out with this too - I’ve been cognitively quit now a little over
    4.5 years. When you’re ready to start work or have any questions to
    ask, just email one of us off list.
    Pam

    Getting Started? I haven’t read all of it yet, but I’m working on it.
    As far as coming out of the weird head space, I’m still there, and I
    keep hoping each day will get better, and I’ll become more like
    myself, but it has yet to happen.

  37. Neva Marjory Says:

    Hello I am a new member and had my last cigarrette yesterday evening.
    Back in work now.
    Pretty sure I will last until lunch time, but thats when it gets
    tricky.
    Any advice greatfully taken.
    Neil

  38. Kaitlin Nguyen Says:

    hello all…I am 48 hours into my “cold turkey” quit smokeing forever,
    lifestyle….I am new to the group but unfortunately, not new to
    trying to quit. I have been a smoker for about ten years and in that
    ten years I have made five real attempts to quit smokeing. I really
    want to be done this time. SO, any advice, encouragement, cautions,
    anything, anyone wants to share…I am open!

  39. Stella Lili Says:

    Hello, my name is Tammy. I am a stay at home mom, married with one
    daughter, 4 years old. I smoked for 25 years an average of a pack a
    day. I quit 24 days ago and I am FEELING GREAT about it. I had been
    going to a public forum however found it “unsuitable” for me and need
    to find the “right” fit. The word cognitive comes up a lot for me when
    I describe how I view quitting. I look forward to sharing friendship
    and support with you all.
    Tammy

  40. Kelvin Janessa Says:

    Hello Tammy,
    Welcome to our group.
    Congrats on your 24 day quit. Are you using any NRT or was this a cold
    turkey quit?
    I use the word cognitive to describe the state of being aware of the
    connections we’d created between our physical experience of life and a
    cigarette. I’m very interested in how you view quitting since that
    perspective has a lot to do with our chances for success.
    Hope to hear from you soon,
    Steve
    ps- Out of curiosity, which public forum had you been visiting?

  41. Jacqueline Tressa Says:

    Hello Tammy,
    Welcome to our group.
    Congrats on your 24 day quit. Are you using any NRT or was this a cold
    turkey quit?
    Cold turkey: ) Tried hypnosis in “one” of my past attempts. Didn’t work: )
    I use the word cognitive to describe the state of being aware of the
    connections we’d created between our physical experience of life and a
    cigarette. I’m very interested in how you view quitting since that
    perspective has a lot to do with our chances for success.
    Well, that is precisely how I use it: ) I believe I “conditioned” myself to
    smoke and it is WAY more of a psychological battle than it is physical. Change
    how you “preceive” something, it will change how you feel hence how you act; )
    I do not feel I am an “addict” or a “junkie” to nicotine and have never been.
    I quit many, many times in the past. Once I was 90 days in and went back, HOW
    LAME and no, it wasn’t “caving in to a crave”, it was vacation *a trigger so to

    speak* and habit!!!!!! I quit for all the wrong reasons in the past and didn’t
    have much education.
    Well, after going back to the nasties after 90 days I started “preparing”
    myself for the next quit. I “re-conditioned” myself so to speak. I stopped
    smoking at times I usually would. I cut WAY back. I started making smoking
    more and more of a “chore” to do. I knew turning 35 my obgyn would make me
    switch my birth control method if I didn’t quit smoking and I didn’t want to do
    that, so I planned on quitting at the “latest” then. Well, that time came and
    here I am quit, 24 beautiful days in: )Many talk about Alan Carrs book saying
    similar things, I haven’t read it but it sounds kinda how I think.
    This quit has been really great overall. Yeah, I have had moments, yeah there
    are “triggers” but I have identified them and have ALWAYS dealt with them,
    smoking is NOT an option. That’s it: )
    Guess that is it for me, questions, comments?
    Oh, the public forum I was in was Quitnet.
    Tammy D24
    Hope to hear from you soon,
    Steve
    ps- Out of curiosity, which public forum had you been visiting?

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