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	<title>Comments on: On the difficulty of understanding new solutions to old problems</title>
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		<title>By: Raleigh Missy</title>
		<link>http://www.smoking.wordpress-by.org/2005/01/25/on-the-difficulty-of-understanding-new-solutions-to-old-proble/#comment-1848</link>
		<author>Raleigh Missy</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Posting AND doing aren't mutually exclusive Phil. In fact, I think it
would be in your best interests to do both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posting AND doing aren&#8217;t mutually exclusive Phil. In fact, I think it<br />
would be in your best interests to do both.</p>
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		<title>By: Raleigh Missy</title>
		<link>http://www.smoking.wordpress-by.org/2005/01/25/on-the-difficulty-of-understanding-new-solutions-to-old-proble/#comment-1847</link>
		<author>Raleigh Missy</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2005 03:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Phil,
 I read your post, thought "yeah, this is all correct...", and then I
 reread the title of your post. "..the difficulty of understanding..."
 I'm not sure, but I wonder if there are different ways to come to
 understand. There's the intellectual route where Mr or Mrs Higherbrain will
 poke and probe and analyse and in the end come to some conclussions that
 may or may not lead somewhere else. And then there's an 'experiential'
 route. In this one we 'do'. And as the 'doing' and it's results become part
 of our repeated experience we come to understand on a very different
 level. However, this requires a degree of trust with which some of us have
 a great deal of difficulty. Phil, I think if I were coming to cognitive
 quitting now, with none of my prior experience in this area, I'd probably
 be 'examining' it to death... endlessly questioning as to how and why and
 if. Maybe this is some of the difference between men and women and the
 demographics of this group, or maybe that's just another hair.
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 So - what are you going to do Phil?
 Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Phil,<br />
 I read your post, thought &#8220;yeah, this is all correct&#8230;&#8221;, and then I<br />
 reread the title of your post. &#8220;..the difficulty of understanding&#8230;&#8221;<br />
 I&#8217;m not sure, but I wonder if there are different ways to come to<br />
 understand. There&#8217;s the intellectual route where Mr or Mrs Higherbrain will<br />
 poke and probe and analyse and in the end come to some conclussions that<br />
 may or may not lead somewhere else. And then there&#8217;s an &#8216;experiential&#8217;<br />
 route. In this one we &#8216;do&#8217;. And as the &#8216;doing&#8217; and it&#8217;s results become part<br />
 of our repeated experience we come to understand on a very different<br />
 level. However, this requires a degree of trust with which some of us have<br />
 a great deal of difficulty. Phil, I think if I were coming to cognitive<br />
 quitting now, with none of my prior experience in this area, I&#8217;d probably<br />
 be &#8216;examining&#8217; it to death&#8230; endlessly questioning as to how and why and<br />
 if. Maybe this is some of the difference between men and women and the<br />
 demographics of this group, or maybe that&#8217;s just another hair.<br />
 <!--more--><br />
 So - what are you going to do Phil?<br />
 Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Blanche Oralia</title>
		<link>http://www.smoking.wordpress-by.org/2005/01/25/on-the-difficulty-of-understanding-new-solutions-to-old-proble/#comment-1846</link>
		<author>Blanche Oralia</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2005 22:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Phil
I don't think cogquitting is about "replacing chemical hits with
something bland and ordinary". I'd see it more as dealing with the
physical consequences of emotions, triggered by the events that made
us think we 'needed' to smoke. If we quit, we give up getting
those 'hits' - but I suspect the hits were only ever really about a
body that was often crying out for its fix and got relief, rather
than a hit.
And yes - doing the ABC's is what'll make it all work. Thats come
home to me in recent days/weeks. Are you actively ABC'ing?
Anita
--- In CognitiveQuitSmoking@y..., "dd_philpearson"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Phil<br />
I don&#8217;t think cogquitting is about &#8220;replacing chemical hits with<br />
something bland and ordinary&#8221;. I&#8217;d see it more as dealing with the<br />
physical consequences of emotions, triggered by the events that made<br />
us think we &#8216;needed&#8217; to smoke. If we quit, we give up getting<br />
those &#8216;hits&#8217; - but I suspect the hits were only ever really about a<br />
body that was often crying out for its fix and got relief, rather<br />
than a hit.<br />
And yes - doing the ABC&#8217;s is what&#8217;ll make it all work. Thats come<br />
home to me in recent days/weeks. Are you actively ABC&#8217;ing?<br />
Anita<br />
&#8212; In <a href="mailto:CognitiveQuitSmoking@y...">CognitiveQuitSmoking@y&#8230;</a>, &#8220;dd_philpearson&#8221;</p>
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