Comments on: Finding the ‘want’ to quit http://www.smoking.wordpress-by.org/2005/06/30/finding-the-want-to-quit/ Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:14:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: Tricia Brandon http://www.smoking.wordpress-by.org/2005/06/30/finding-the-want-to-quit/#comment-2169 Tricia Brandon Fri, 08 Jul 2005 18:15:22 +0000 http://www.smoking.wordpress-by.org/2005/06/30/finding-the-want-to-quit/#comment-2169 I don't make much distinction between the physical and the psychological addiction, but Steve it sounds like you do. Could you say more about this. Judy I don’t make much distinction between the physical and the psychological
addiction, but Steve it sounds like you do. Could you say more about
this.
Judy

]]> By: Raleigh Missy http://www.smoking.wordpress-by.org/2005/06/30/finding-the-want-to-quit/#comment-2160 Raleigh Missy Sun, 03 Jul 2005 16:53:02 +0000 http://www.smoking.wordpress-by.org/2005/06/30/finding-the-want-to-quit/#comment-2160 Vicki, I'm sorry you were offended by my post. It was in response to Pam's post and I took the opportunity to air some of my views. My post was not addressed specifically at you as you are not the only 12 step person in the group. I phased it the way I did not to mock anyone, but rather to start from a position that many relate to and attempt to show, yet again, that you (the plural 'you') can not be addicted once you are more than 3 days off nicotine. You are certainly still habituated, but that habit is something that most people aren't dealling with. A majority of quitters, not just those involved in 12 step programs, believe they will be addicts for life. That comes with the corollary belief that they will need to be 'on guard' for the rest of their lifes. And both of those beliefs seem to be consequent to the belief that the individual was not, is not now, and can not be in control. All of this comes back to <!--more--> individual's responsibility. This is a procedural and conceptual conflict with most cognitive approaches and may explain why 12 step programs and cognitive approaches rarely seem to be reconcilable. I am not a nicotine addict and haven't been one since 3 or 4 days after I quit on March 15th of '96. Unless I choose to start using nicotine again, I will never again be an addict. Having changed my response associations to the events that were previously reasons to light up, I am not on guard or vigilant nore is there need to be. I have always been the one in complete control of my behavior as is every other smoker and quitter. If I want to create change, it's up to me to find a way to change. Others may help with support and suggestions, but change is entirely in our hands. My observations over the past several years are that these beliefs lead to a solid cognitive quit. Steve Vicki,
I’m sorry you were offended by my post. It was in response to Pam’s post
and I took the opportunity to air some of my views. My post was not
addressed specifically at you as you are not the only 12 step person in the
group.
I phased it the way I did not to mock anyone, but rather to start from a
position that many relate to and attempt to show, yet again, that you (the
plural ‘you’) can not be addicted once you are more than 3 days off
nicotine. You are certainly still habituated, but that habit is something
that most people aren’t dealling with.
A majority of quitters, not just those involved in 12 step programs,
believe they will be addicts for life. That comes with the corollary belief
that they will need to be ‘on guard’ for the rest of their lifes. And both
of those beliefs seem to be consequent to the belief that the individual
was not, is not now, and can not be in control. All of this comes back to

individual’s responsibility. This is a procedural and conceptual conflict
with most cognitive approaches and may explain why 12 step programs and
cognitive approaches rarely seem to be reconcilable.
I am not a nicotine addict and haven’t been one since 3 or 4 days after
I quit on March 15th of ‘96. Unless I choose to start using nicotine again,
I will never again be an addict. Having changed my response associations to
the events that were previously reasons to light up, I am not on guard or
vigilant nore is there need to be. I have always been the one in complete
control of my behavior as is every other smoker and quitter. If I want to
create change, it’s up to me to find a way to change. Others may help with
support and suggestions, but change is entirely in our hands. My
observations over the past several years are that these beliefs lead to a
solid cognitive quit.
Steve

]]> By: Dino Cannon http://www.smoking.wordpress-by.org/2005/06/30/finding-the-want-to-quit/#comment-2155 Dino Cannon Fri, 01 Jul 2005 21:52:10 +0000 http://www.smoking.wordpress-by.org/2005/06/30/finding-the-want-to-quit/#comment-2155 Judy- that's great news!! work Start with the foundation statements. Write out your lists. Do some ABCs. Steve Judy-
that’s great news!!

work
Start with the foundation statements. Write out your lists. Do some
ABCs.
Steve

]]> By: carmelita_1300 http://www.smoking.wordpress-by.org/2005/06/30/finding-the-want-to-quit/#comment-2154 carmelita_1300 Fri, 01 Jul 2005 16:00:46 +0000 http://www.smoking.wordpress-by.org/2005/06/30/finding-the-want-to-quit/#comment-2154 Congratulations Judy! Congratulations Judy!

]]> By: Tricia Brandon http://www.smoking.wordpress-by.org/2005/06/30/finding-the-want-to-quit/#comment-2152 Tricia Brandon Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:47:43 +0000 http://www.smoking.wordpress-by.org/2005/06/30/finding-the-want-to-quit/#comment-2152 Hello Everyone, I had to share my good news. I am still cancer free. I had a lung/abdomen scan Wed. and then a bone scan on Thurs. I just heard from my dr. and the results of the scan was no new cancer. I've been gathering the information that I've found on this site and have set tomorrow as the day that I read everything and begin to work on this. Judy Hello Everyone,
I had to share my good news. I am still cancer free. I had a
lung/abdomen scan Wed. and then a bone scan on Thurs. I just heard from
my dr. and the results of the scan was no new cancer.
I’ve been gathering the information that I’ve found on this site and
have set tomorrow as the day that I read everything and begin to work on
this.
Judy

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