Was… Reply and Update/ to Steve S and new members

Hi Steve, welcome to the group.
You said
the job, but they won’t do the work for you.
Tell us how you’re using the tools…. are you following the programme
outlined in ‘Getting Started’ ? Are you working on the timer log and
recording your findings? Any questions you’d like to ask?
To all of you new quitters: one of the Foundation Statements that Steve
(ddsteve) wrote said
” 5- In order to retrain Warren, I WILL DO THE WORK. Reading and thinking
alone will not make permanent changes to my patterns of behavior.”
Lots of you are reading here, but we’re not seeing many of you posting, and
discussing how you’re finding the work, what you’re finding out about your
smoking behaviour, how you’re addressing those ‘urges’ to smoke. You
honestly will learn so much more how to become comfortably quit if you join
in and share your experiences. We can only help you quit cognitively if

you give us some clues ;) Anyone want to tell us how you’re doing the work?
Pam

4 Responses to “Was… Reply and Update/ to Steve S and new members”

  1. Freddie Spears Says:

    Thanks, Pam
    You wrote:
    “Tell us how you’re using the tools…. are you following the
    programme
    outlined in ‘Getting Started’ ? Are you working on the timer log and
    recording your findings?”
    Honestly, I am using absolutely every single tool I can get. I am
    doing the timer logs. I’m going back and reviewing the cog-quit
    philosophy, reminding myself about Warren, and that he’s in my
    control for retraining. I have, and read often, my foundation
    statements. I also carry and read my five personal reasons for
    wanting to be a non-smoker. I’m working out. I’m meditating. I’m
    broadcasting far and wide the fact that I have quit so I can get
    direct and indirect support from everyone I know. I’m exercising.
    I’m going through a detox through diet and drinking the great lakes

    dry of water. I printed articles with facts and figures to scare me
    and remind me; I always have them with me. It’s beautiful here in
    Michigan right now, and one thing I miss terribly since I’ve quit is
    that I don’t get outside anymore. So, I make it a task to go out,
    like I used to do for a smoke, and I read my articles and get some
    fresh air. I’m on here with you folks. I’m sure there is more, and
    I’m sure this is more than you were looking for, but its working.
    I had started the timer logs, and then stopped because I didn’t
    think I was getting much from them, but later realized I just wasn’t
    putting in the time required. It’s actually easier to do when you
    understand how much time you’re still saving by not smoking. The
    method is more than just setting the timer and writing stuff down.
    I’ve found I really need to think about them. I need to go back and
    read and try to analyze what widget are coming, and how Warren needs
    to be trained. I’m trying lots of alternative responses to feelings
    and emotions. Are they always supposed to be the same? In the long
    run, can I satisfy my different needs with different rational
    responses? When I truly identify a specific trigger, do I have to
    have ONE rational response to that one trigger, effectively
    retraining Warren so I don’t have to think about it forever?
    Cognitively quit for 6 days, 9 hours, 40 minutes and 45 seconds,
    Steve S.

  2. Candy Justina Says:

    Hi again Steve,
    Yes, Warren is directly under your control - he’s a simple soul who,
    once he’s been shown what to do, gets on quietly in the background
    directing life’s widgets. If he’s only ever known that offering you a
    smoke is the cure for x and y, then he’ll keep on doing so. If he’s
    shown that other responses are more valid, then he’ll do so. Once
    taught, he’ll then start offering you what you physically need, and
    you won’t even be conscious its happening after the initial ‘practising’
    The point of doing the timer logs is to get much more in tune with
    what your body is experiencing through the course of a day, and to
    learn how to address the needs you identify in ways other than
    smoking.. You’ve been doing the log (will you post it here?) and I’m
    guessing that the part you’ve had most difficulty with is identifying
    physical conditions/sensations. I’d also guess that most events were
    smoking situations? It takes some work and practice to identify what

    we’re feeling physically, which is why we suggest doing this exercise
    over a few days. Just to recap..
    1- what event is happening?
    2- what emotion (happy, sad, bored, etc) or condition (hot, hungry,
    tired,
    etc) is present?
    3- is this an instance when I’d smoke? (yes or no)
    4- what is my body feeling? (muscle tension where? breathing shallow or
    rapid or what? stomach or chest sensations of full or hollow or what?
    is my
    mind clear or foggy?)
    5- what might I do to address the physical needs of this situation?
    (other
    than smoke?)
    Here’s a hypothetical timer log entry..
    1 Event - just got up
    2 Emotions/conditions - , apprehensive about the day ahead, hungry,
    tired, thirsty, anxious
    3 Smoking instance? Yes
    4 What is my body feeling? , stiff back and shoulder muscles, groggy,
    headache
    5 what might I do to address the physical needs? Drink of fruit
    juice, simple stretching exercises, some deep breaths
    Our true ‘triggers’ to smoke were actually those physical sensations
    which are the result of a variety of emotions and conditions. You’d
    mentioned that you were trying lots of alternative responses to
    feelings and emotions, but concentrate instead on the physical. A
    wide range of emotions and conditions such as anger and hunger
    produced quite a finite list of physical sensations. I know that if I
    feel angry or nervous or hungry, then I experience pretty similar
    physical sensations - the tense muscles, the churning stomach, the
    quickened heart beat. Again, these mimic nicotine withdrawal symptons
    which historically have always been cured wit a smoke - and Warren
    offers up that ‘cure’. What we’re trying to do here is identify what
    will address those symptons and teach Warren to offer up what we
    actually need. Keep it simple, and don’t get bogged down thinking
    about how to deal with anger or anxiety or whatever
    else….concentrate on the physical, and how to ‘treat’ what you’ve
    identified.
    Hope that wasn’t too long winded :) Pam

  3. Freddie Spears Says:

    That’s great clarification, at least for me. I was definaely trying
    to cure all. I didn’t understand the relationships. hmmm, I’ll
    have to rethink this. (how, not if) :-) I’m not really sure to post timer logs, even if they were
    electronic. Right now I’m scratchin them out with a pen.
    Thanks,
    Steve S.

  4. Candy Justina Says:

    Hi again Steve,
    Put the log into a Word doc., attach it to an email you send to the
    group and it’ll show up on the group page
    Pam
    Steve S said :-

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