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		<description>Hi, Sheila ~
 This may sound strange to you, but your post was an incredible incentive
 for me. From getting sober in AA seven years ago and hearing LOTS of
 stories - folks don't 'keep coming back' if they don't sense/see that
 the Program works. They just keep coming back and hoping that one day
 'something sticks' for them. Some folks come in and out for 20 years -
 and then, one day, 'get it'. The hope, desire, willingness..to try life
 upside down. ;) For me, they are the most powerful stories. Was at a
 meeting one day and an older gent said that it took him seven trips
 through the doors..the other youngin' asked, "If you don't mind my
 asking, how long do you have this trip?" The soft reply, "Thirty-two
 years."
 Feed Hope. Don't let the brat in your head hide hope under his bs. I
 quit for 3 weeks when I was 28 (only four years after starting, I was
 trying to stop). Since that time, I really haven't gotten serious until
 &lt;!--more--&gt;
 day before yesterday. Only made it 24 hours - and went in search of
 moral support - stories of others who quit. Found some on About.com and
 one of them had the link to CogQuit as part of their story. Stories
 feed hope. And the link gave me a way in my head that made sense.
 (Regardless of how hard I'm trying to complicate it. &#60;g
 You wouldn't hang around these parts if you hadn't seen other's succeed
 in the CogQuit, eh? And that feeds my hope.
 I copied snippets from quit-smoke stories that sounded like part of my
 story. The one below feels like it plugs into so many places within
 me.I find myself reading and re-reading - not quite sure I'm ready to
 start plugging but finding it so beautifully simple somehow. It was
 said in response to what someone wrote - but only this response jumped
 out, grabbed onto a thought and said, "Take me home. You won't be
 sorry." He's a keeper. I just know it. :-)
 "It might be that you feel like you don't have anything to
 rely on to make you feel better."
 The writing on the wall points to feeling bad - often. Impatient,
 anxious, withdrawn, bored, procrastination that causes other bad things
 to happen, angry, irritated, indecisive, inflexible, self-defeating
 behaviors, exhausted, insomnia, feeling lost in a lost world. Only
 cigarettes understand and make me feel better or just 'tune out' - in
 the deep, instant gratification kind of way. Which makes me minimally
 dependent on others; the critical need to be self-sufficient,
 self-reliant. This is getting funny - how bizarre the brain works.
 Instead of people, I hand my life over to cigarettes. Like feeeeeeeling
 that I'm going to do something wrong - and talking my way into prison to
 protect myself. No, that's not it.
 I have a power problem. The switch is broken and I can't turn off
 without a cigarette. All of life simply 'gets in' whenever it wants. I
 block some by not being available. Others have to be blocked chemically
 (cigs). I don't have the Teflon coating. Everything sticks and wants
 me to think about it, react to it, fix it, or make it go away.
 It just occurred to me that *my* insomnia (when not causing myself to
 work 12-14 hrs a day) may be caused by cigarettes - The refusal to feel
 and think things through means that they're 'backed up' in my brain.
 When I'm waiting for sleep - they all come tumbling out. I get up and
 smoke, and try again. I have a fear of that mental cluster-f each
 night. Not a fear of going to sleep - but of not being able to go to
 sleep.
 For me, quitting has *primarily* nothing to do with health, not smelling
 like a stale smoke factory, the thick yellow-brown gunk when cleaning
 the TV screen, the computer screen, the walls.. For me, it's all about
 finding the way to replacing fake happiness/existing - with Real Stuff.
 Smoking keeps me 'comfortably numb'. I want to wake up more. Smoking
 is in the way now where before it didn't seem to impede.
 Steve, through CogQuit and through the job of hands-on trainer, was
 amazingly helpful to me. I don't know how long the chat lasted
 yesterday but on re-reading, I noticed something. While I was
 attempting to explain how high the walls were and what they were made
 of, he kept bringing me back to ground. That the object wasn't to find
 ways to stay imprisoned - but to start walking toward the exit. CogQuit
 gave me an onramp but I wanted to be on the other road without using the
 on-ramp.
 The timer just went off. I spent over an hour on the net looking for
 the 'perfect' timer. Perfection-istic ways - the common sign of many of
 the addicted. The 'alarm' is such an upbeat, lively squash of melody
 that I'm instantly smiling when it pops up. It has only gone off three
 times, but I found myself on the third 'almost' time looking to see if
 something had gone wrong because 'it had been awhile'. Still had 8
 minutes to go. Not sure what that means except that I may be replacing
 the comfort of a cig with the comfort of that tune. Is this timer thing
 addictive, Steve? &#60;g
 12/20- 0910
 Life Situation: Arising to the jigged beat of the computer alarm. How
 will I ever remember the tensions when they just melt at the tune? I
 find myself looking forward to the day and being here with everyone
 sharing the same journey.
 Body Cues:
 Muscles/Abdomen: Okay.
 Breathing: Normal
 Concentration: Focused - although the focus keeps collecting others
 things I want to focus on.
 Emotional Shifts/Mood: Upbeat.
 Rational Response: Finish the email that I started last night and was
 afraid to send. Afraid of 'exposure'. I need a safe place to write.
 It helps me to write and then re-read when it comes back through. Gives
 me objectivity - as if it was written by someone else and I'm looking
 for clues from 'them'. "What I say is what *I* most need to hear."
 2. Looked over the timer format. I saw different things today than
 the first couple of times. Strings uniting. Along the way, I saw "If
 you are leaving 'back doors' though which you can justify a cigarette,
 you WILL go through one of those doors." I already have. Which one?
 Fear of exposing what I have fought all of my life to keep others from
 seeing - as well as myself. The need to be in control and 'together'.
 3. So, what's the answer for exposure to close that door?
 Somewhere, someone has made it through the other side of the smoking
 addiction with the same fear. I just have to trust that - I am not
 unique. While some may be more physically addicted than
 psychologically, I can see where my addiction is first and foremost,
 psychological. I medicate feelings - good ones, bad, or indifferent.
 All unwanted and unwelcome. Just around the corner from the 'high' is
 the pin to pop it in unsuspecting ways. The lows speak for themselves -
 paralysis if not 'checked'. This is all my idea of achieving 'balance'
 in my life.
 4. The next one came from a group I belonged to before finding this
 one. Those in an early quit talking about the 'fog' and trying to study
 for an exam. That's where I crashed 20 years ago after 3 weeks. The
 term paper. I simply had to be able to think straight in order to do
 that. I smoked. Never finished the term paper and got and F for the
 course - in a subject that I loved with a wonderful teacher. What would
 have happened if I'd used research to work past those cravings? Losing
 that quit affected more than I could see at the time. I gave up across
 the board.
 5. I'm looking to start a new job. The first couple of weeks of a
 new job have always drained me. The perfectionist in me wants to learn
 fast, be up and running in record time. I'm exhausted from trying to
 assimilate so much new material. I need to 'unwind' with cigarettes.
 Down under, I doubt that I will be able to catch on, catch up, get
 proficient 'in time'. I over-compensate the doubt with over-achieving.
 I was aware of myself doing this in the last job I had. Going in at 4
 a.m. day after day. I also noticed for the first time how my
 over-zealousness affects others. They feel threatened, less competent,
 less dedicated.. I was given the order to come in at 8:30. I tried it
 but felt 'behind' all day. I went back to going in at 4 a.m. and just
 didn't do anything that would tip them off like completely rearrange the
 display floor. What they don't understand is that it isn't about them.
 I only compete against the brat inside - the need to prove it wrong that
 I'm 'less than', 'incompetent', 'slow to learn'.
 I don't see a way to close that door. When I don't smoke - I have tons
 more restless energy to add to the already 'driven' cache. I won't get
 much work done with my hands stretching in the air every 10 seconds. &#60;g
 6. 'Warren' (loved the alliteration - just for fun, I might try
 reading it out loud. &#60;s
 to the sites that Steve gave me in chat. (howtostretch.com and
 deepsloweasy.com) I don't know why I fight using breathing as a
 technique. I failed meditation. But I'm willing to try it and see what
 surfaces emotionally.
 Feels like I've covered the gaping open doors. If anyone has had
 similar ones, I'm open to trying what worked for you. It's hard to
 believe that stretching and breathing would be the things to help - but
 if that is your experience, then I'll be willing to make it mine as
 well.
 I want to give it another go. But I know I'm not ready because the
 thought came to keep the rest of the pack in the drawer 'for an
 emergency'. Looking at that open door, I see that emergencies are
 unplanned for events. I need to get some tools in the tool box - and
 smokes can't be one of the tools if it's the very one I want to stop
 torturing myself with.
 I also know that being prepared without fire drills doesn't work so well
 when the event happens. I'll get the tools and learn how to use them in
 a safe environment. Then put myself in an environment that normally
 causes discomfort (in my case, that ain't hard), and then practice.
 Sorry this is so long for those who read. Part of me says I'm making a
 mountain out of a molehill. The other part says that mountain is bigger
 around and taller than any on earth. Start at the top and start
 weighing those widgets - and wending them down new cog chutes instead of
 adding them under foot.
 A Wannabe Wendy,
 Pamela
 P.S. Warren says he has no interest in reading this coming back through
 - ugh. Whatta wimp. &#60;bg
 _____</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Sheila ~<br />
 This may sound strange to you, but your post was an incredible incentive<br />
 for me. From getting sober in AA seven years ago and hearing LOTS of<br />
 stories - folks don&#8217;t &#8216;keep coming back&#8217; if they don&#8217;t sense/see that<br />
 the Program works. They just keep coming back and hoping that one day<br />
 &#8217;something sticks&#8217; for them. Some folks come in and out for 20 years -<br />
 and then, one day, &#8216;get it&#8217;. The hope, desire, willingness..to try life<br />
 upside down. <img src='http://www.smoking.wordpress-by.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> For me, they are the most powerful stories. Was at a<br />
 meeting one day and an older gent said that it took him seven trips<br />
 through the doors..the other youngin&#8217; asked, &#8220;If you don&#8217;t mind my<br />
 asking, how long do you have this trip?&#8221; The soft reply, &#8220;Thirty-two<br />
 years.&#8221;<br />
 Feed Hope. Don&#8217;t let the brat in your head hide hope under his bs. I<br />
 quit for 3 weeks when I was 28 (only four years after starting, I was<br />
 trying to stop). Since that time, I really haven&#8217;t gotten serious until<br />
 <!--more--><br />
 day before yesterday. Only made it 24 hours - and went in search of<br />
 moral support - stories of others who quit. Found some on About.com and<br />
 one of them had the link to CogQuit as part of their story. Stories<br />
 feed hope. And the link gave me a way in my head that made sense.<br />
 (Regardless of how hard I&#8217;m trying to complicate it. &lt;g<br />
 You wouldn&#8217;t hang around these parts if you hadn&#8217;t seen other&#8217;s succeed<br />
 in the CogQuit, eh? And that feeds my hope.<br />
 I copied snippets from quit-smoke stories that sounded like part of my<br />
 story. The one below feels like it plugs into so many places within<br />
 me.I find myself reading and re-reading - not quite sure I&#8217;m ready to<br />
 start plugging but finding it so beautifully simple somehow. It was<br />
 said in response to what someone wrote - but only this response jumped<br />
 out, grabbed onto a thought and said, &#8220;Take me home. You won&#8217;t be<br />
 sorry.&#8221; He&#8217;s a keeper. I just know it. <img src='http://www.smoking.wordpress-by.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8220;It might be that you feel like you don&#8217;t have anything to<br />
 rely on to make you feel better.&#8221;<br />
 The writing on the wall points to feeling bad - often. Impatient,<br />
 anxious, withdrawn, bored, procrastination that causes other bad things<br />
 to happen, angry, irritated, indecisive, inflexible, self-defeating<br />
 behaviors, exhausted, insomnia, feeling lost in a lost world. Only<br />
 cigarettes understand and make me feel better or just &#8216;tune out&#8217; - in<br />
 the deep, instant gratification kind of way. Which makes me minimally<br />
 dependent on others; the critical need to be self-sufficient,<br />
 self-reliant. This is getting funny - how bizarre the brain works.<br />
 Instead of people, I hand my life over to cigarettes. Like feeeeeeeling<br />
 that I&#8217;m going to do something wrong - and talking my way into prison to<br />
 protect myself. No, that&#8217;s not it.<br />
 I have a power problem. The switch is broken and I can&#8217;t turn off<br />
 without a cigarette. All of life simply &#8216;gets in&#8217; whenever it wants. I<br />
 block some by not being available. Others have to be blocked chemically<br />
 (cigs). I don&#8217;t have the Teflon coating. Everything sticks and wants<br />
 me to think about it, react to it, fix it, or make it go away.<br />
 It just occurred to me that *my* insomnia (when not causing myself to<br />
 work 12-14 hrs a day) may be caused by cigarettes - The refusal to feel<br />
 and think things through means that they&#8217;re &#8216;backed up&#8217; in my brain.<br />
 When I&#8217;m waiting for sleep - they all come tumbling out. I get up and<br />
 smoke, and try again. I have a fear of that mental cluster-f each<br />
 night. Not a fear of going to sleep - but of not being able to go to<br />
 sleep.<br />
 For me, quitting has *primarily* nothing to do with health, not smelling<br />
 like a stale smoke factory, the thick yellow-brown gunk when cleaning<br />
 the TV screen, the computer screen, the walls.. For me, it&#8217;s all about<br />
 finding the way to replacing fake happiness/existing - with Real Stuff.<br />
 Smoking keeps me &#8216;comfortably numb&#8217;. I want to wake up more. Smoking<br />
 is in the way now where before it didn&#8217;t seem to impede.<br />
 Steve, through CogQuit and through the job of hands-on trainer, was<br />
 amazingly helpful to me. I don&#8217;t know how long the chat lasted<br />
 yesterday but on re-reading, I noticed something. While I was<br />
 attempting to explain how high the walls were and what they were made<br />
 of, he kept bringing me back to ground. That the object wasn&#8217;t to find<br />
 ways to stay imprisoned - but to start walking toward the exit. CogQuit<br />
 gave me an onramp but I wanted to be on the other road without using the<br />
 on-ramp.<br />
 The timer just went off. I spent over an hour on the net looking for<br />
 the &#8216;perfect&#8217; timer. Perfection-istic ways - the common sign of many of<br />
 the addicted. The &#8216;alarm&#8217; is such an upbeat, lively squash of melody<br />
 that I&#8217;m instantly smiling when it pops up. It has only gone off three<br />
 times, but I found myself on the third &#8216;almost&#8217; time looking to see if<br />
 something had gone wrong because &#8216;it had been awhile&#8217;. Still had 8<br />
 minutes to go. Not sure what that means except that I may be replacing<br />
 the comfort of a cig with the comfort of that tune. Is this timer thing<br />
 addictive, Steve? &lt;g<br />
 12/20- 0910<br />
 Life Situation: Arising to the jigged beat of the computer alarm. How<br />
 will I ever remember the tensions when they just melt at the tune? I<br />
 find myself looking forward to the day and being here with everyone<br />
 sharing the same journey.<br />
 Body Cues:<br />
 Muscles/Abdomen: Okay.<br />
 Breathing: Normal<br />
 Concentration: Focused - although the focus keeps collecting others<br />
 things I want to focus on.<br />
 Emotional Shifts/Mood: Upbeat.<br />
 Rational Response: Finish the email that I started last night and was<br />
 afraid to send. Afraid of &#8216;exposure&#8217;. I need a safe place to write.<br />
 It helps me to write and then re-read when it comes back through. Gives<br />
 me objectivity - as if it was written by someone else and I&#8217;m looking<br />
 for clues from &#8216;them&#8217;. &#8220;What I say is what *I* most need to hear.&#8221;<br />
 2. Looked over the timer format. I saw different things today than<br />
 the first couple of times. Strings uniting. Along the way, I saw &#8220;If<br />
 you are leaving &#8216;back doors&#8217; though which you can justify a cigarette,<br />
 you WILL go through one of those doors.&#8221; I already have. Which one?<br />
 Fear of exposing what I have fought all of my life to keep others from<br />
 seeing - as well as myself. The need to be in control and &#8216;together&#8217;.<br />
 3. So, what&#8217;s the answer for exposure to close that door?<br />
 Somewhere, someone has made it through the other side of the smoking<br />
 addiction with the same fear. I just have to trust that - I am not<br />
 unique. While some may be more physically addicted than<br />
 psychologically, I can see where my addiction is first and foremost,<br />
 psychological. I medicate feelings - good ones, bad, or indifferent.<br />
 All unwanted and unwelcome. Just around the corner from the &#8216;high&#8217; is<br />
 the pin to pop it in unsuspecting ways. The lows speak for themselves -<br />
 paralysis if not &#8216;checked&#8217;. This is all my idea of achieving &#8216;balance&#8217;<br />
 in my life.<br />
 4. The next one came from a group I belonged to before finding this<br />
 one. Those in an early quit talking about the &#8216;fog&#8217; and trying to study<br />
 for an exam. That&#8217;s where I crashed 20 years ago after 3 weeks. The<br />
 term paper. I simply had to be able to think straight in order to do<br />
 that. I smoked. Never finished the term paper and got and F for the<br />
 course - in a subject that I loved with a wonderful teacher. What would<br />
 have happened if I&#8217;d used research to work past those cravings? Losing<br />
 that quit affected more than I could see at the time. I gave up across<br />
 the board.<br />
 5. I&#8217;m looking to start a new job. The first couple of weeks of a<br />
 new job have always drained me. The perfectionist in me wants to learn<br />
 fast, be up and running in record time. I&#8217;m exhausted from trying to<br />
 assimilate so much new material. I need to &#8216;unwind&#8217; with cigarettes.<br />
 Down under, I doubt that I will be able to catch on, catch up, get<br />
 proficient &#8216;in time&#8217;. I over-compensate the doubt with over-achieving.<br />
 I was aware of myself doing this in the last job I had. Going in at 4<br />
 a.m. day after day. I also noticed for the first time how my<br />
 over-zealousness affects others. They feel threatened, less competent,<br />
 less dedicated.. I was given the order to come in at 8:30. I tried it<br />
 but felt &#8216;behind&#8217; all day. I went back to going in at 4 a.m. and just<br />
 didn&#8217;t do anything that would tip them off like completely rearrange the<br />
 display floor. What they don&#8217;t understand is that it isn&#8217;t about them.<br />
 I only compete against the brat inside - the need to prove it wrong that<br />
 I&#8217;m &#8216;less than&#8217;, &#8216;incompetent&#8217;, &#8217;slow to learn&#8217;.<br />
 I don&#8217;t see a way to close that door. When I don&#8217;t smoke - I have tons<br />
 more restless energy to add to the already &#8216;driven&#8217; cache. I won&#8217;t get<br />
 much work done with my hands stretching in the air every 10 seconds. &lt;g<br />
 6. &#8216;Warren&#8217; (loved the alliteration - just for fun, I might try<br />
 reading it out loud. &lt;s<br />
 to the sites that Steve gave me in chat. (howtostretch.com and<br />
 deepsloweasy.com) I don&#8217;t know why I fight using breathing as a<br />
 technique. I failed meditation. But I&#8217;m willing to try it and see what<br />
 surfaces emotionally.<br />
 Feels like I&#8217;ve covered the gaping open doors. If anyone has had<br />
 similar ones, I&#8217;m open to trying what worked for you. It&#8217;s hard to<br />
 believe that stretching and breathing would be the things to help - but<br />
 if that is your experience, then I&#8217;ll be willing to make it mine as<br />
 well.<br />
 I want to give it another go. But I know I&#8217;m not ready because the<br />
 thought came to keep the rest of the pack in the drawer &#8216;for an<br />
 emergency&#8217;. Looking at that open door, I see that emergencies are<br />
 unplanned for events. I need to get some tools in the tool box - and<br />
 smokes can&#8217;t be one of the tools if it&#8217;s the very one I want to stop<br />
 torturing myself with.<br />
 I also know that being prepared without fire drills doesn&#8217;t work so well<br />
 when the event happens. I&#8217;ll get the tools and learn how to use them in<br />
 a safe environment. Then put myself in an environment that normally<br />
 causes discomfort (in my case, that ain&#8217;t hard), and then practice.<br />
 Sorry this is so long for those who read. Part of me says I&#8217;m making a<br />
 mountain out of a molehill. The other part says that mountain is bigger<br />
 around and taller than any on earth. Start at the top and start<br />
 weighing those widgets - and wending them down new cog chutes instead of<br />
 adding them under foot.<br />
 A Wannabe Wendy,<br />
 Pamela<br />
 P.S. Warren says he has no interest in reading this coming back through<br />
 - ugh. Whatta wimp. &lt;bg<br />
 _____</p>
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